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re: GoT "Middle Ground" Thread - Sn 4 - Offseason Discussion ***Spoilers Possible***

Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:06 pm to
Posted by Eman5805
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:06 pm to
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Old man in the tree told him he's gonna fly. Wonder what that means.


I'm calling it now. Bran is gonna warg a dragon. Use to burn the White Walkers into nothing.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:12 pm to
That sounds fun and all and I'm inclined to agree, however:

Bran has been having the three eyed raven dream since book1...Before dany brought the dragons to life . The three eyed raven in his dream is always trying to teach him to fly

Second, how would blood raven know of the Dragons. I assume the eyes he speaks of are the faces in the Wier woods...none of which are in essos
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:13 pm to
He can warg into animals, and may be able to go as far as Essos with it. I suspect that Mormont's Raven is directly controlled by Bloodraven.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:13 pm to
Don't piss in my cornflakes, Jeff!
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:14 pm to
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I suspect that Mormont's Raven is directly controlled by Bloodraven.



Is Mormont's raven still alive?
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:14 pm to
brans story just gets stranger and stranger. wonder when itll ever connect back to the main story. probably in the last book or so if i had to guess.

crazy how many main characters are now being sent to far away regions.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:15 pm to
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Is Mormont's raven still alive?



Yeah. It talks in the books.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:17 pm to
oh yea, it says Snow and Corn. Does it say anything else? I forget.
Posted by jefforize
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:25 pm to
True. Plus that premonition bran had at the Wierwood earlier this season showed Drogon flying over KL.

I guess blood raven wants bran to warg into Drogon and torch all of westeros as vengeance for the children of the forest. If so, though, why wouldn't this same series of events occurred with the Baelon the Dread during the targaryen dynasty.

Bran must be very special
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:30 pm to
I don't want Bran to warg into a dragon, I want Bran to sit on a saddle attached to a dragon and ride it!
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:35 pm to
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oh yea, it says Snow and Corn. Does it say anything else? I forget.



It repeats words that other say like "Kill" and "Die". I just think there's more to that bird than it simply being clever. GRRM brings that bird up constantly, and think it has some larger purpose.
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:52 pm to
frick that was awesome. I found out about Tywin dying a couple months ago but had no idea Shae was gonna bite the dust too.

Another thing I was semi spoiled on wasn't brought up in this episode thankfully. Now i'll have time to read about it first.

Stannis fricking brought the house down on ole Mance. He's bout to wreck shite for the foreseeable future.

Bran's storyline was pretty interesting. Gonna warg into dragons? Probably. What happened to Jojen to make him all weak and shite? Sucks he had to die but better him than Hodor.

"valar morghulis"
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 10:59 pm to
i've heard rumblings that the maesters are melting down

which storyline?

i'm guessing tyrion and bran
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:00 pm to
You wouldn't know .

We're not melting down about Bran FWIW.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:01 pm to
nope

only melt is happening over a omission, but it could happen next season, just most were expecting it tonight
Posted by UMRealist
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:02 pm to
I know. I fight the urge every day to wiki it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:02 pm to
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i'm guessing tyrion and bran



Bran no.

Tyrion, a bit. They completely changed the context of the scene where Tyrion kills Tywin.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:03 pm to
i figured. doesn't "shae" not exist in the books?
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:04 pm to
No she's there. He kills Tywin over someone else though.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/15/14 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

i figured. doesn't "shae" not exist in the books?


she exists

but remember the little story he told about Tysha in like s1? that is who he killed Tywin over in the books

but none of the Hodors would have remembered that story, so they changed it to Shae
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