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Good interview of Nolan about the Odyssey by doctoral student in China

Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:55 am
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 6:55 am

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Are you a bard for a civilization at dusk? (Contrasting Homer’s celebratory tone in a rising Greek culture with Nolan’s post-Oppenheimer sensibility of collapse and irreversible consequence.)?

Nolan finds the historical gap between the Trojan War events and Homer’s time intriguing. Homer described an earlier era that his audience saw as more advanced (the Bronze Age). Nolan became interested in the idea of civilizational cycles and the Bronze Age collapse. He acknowledges carrying the sensibility of collapse and the end of the world from Oppenheimer into this adaptation.


• Did you Christianize The Odyssey? (Noting that the concept of atonement does not exist in Greek culture, the Greek language, or Homer’s original poem, yet it appears in Nolan’s film. Why does it become important amid catastrophe?)

?Nolan says he was not consciously approaching it that way. He focused instead on the Greek concept of xenia (hospitality/mutual respect, called “Zeus’s Law” in the film), rooted in the idea that a stranger might be a god in disguise. The suitors’ violation of xenia drives the story’s damage and catastrophe. Any sense of atonement is largely what modern audiences bring to the film (especially in the Odysseus–Penelope reunion) rather than a deliberate Christian overlay; it emerges naturally from exploring the consequences of breaking that law.


• Should Odysseus repent for his hubris (human pride)? (Drawing a parallel to Thucydides’ account of Athenian hubris leading to decline; is pride appropriate for a great man?)

?Nolan questions what practical difference repentance would make. It would be purely internal and spiritual; it would not undo the external damage already done by the broken xenia. Hubris is tragic precisely because its consequences are irreversible. While audiences may experience catharsis through confession and intimacy (especially with Penelope), the story is more concerned with the damaged world than purely with the character’s spiritual state.


• How do you approach greatness in storytelling in an age that often demands apologies for it? (Homer celebrates greatness; modern Hollywood and audiences frequently require reflection, self-criticism, or contextualization of it.)?

Storytelling is always in conversation with audience expectations and energy. Nolan critiques a common flaw in (especially amateur) film criticism: identifying the mechanism that makes a character sympathetic does not invalidate that mechanism. In a more egalitarian/democratic cultural context, storytellers often need to “apologize” for or contextualize greatness so audiences can accept it. He tries to root this within the story’s own thematics of xenia rather than being self-consciously modern about it.

• What are the gods—figments of imagination or necessary noble lies?

To the characters in the story, the gods are simply reality. In a pre-scientific worldview, natural phenomena (thunder, the sea, etc.) were understood as divine. Nolan portrays the gods as real within that framework, while also suggesting they are projected from within people.
Additional related points covered include film as a near-universal storytelling language (with conventions that can be bent but must be understood) and the idea that civilization itself depends on mutual respect/xenia.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 7:17 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:16 am to
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• Did you Christianize The Odyssey? (Noting that the concept of atonement does not exist in Greek culture, the Greek language, or Homer’s original poem, yet it appears in Nolan’s film. Why does it become important amid catastrophe?)

?Nolan says he was not consciously approaching it that way. He focused instead on the Greek concept of xenia (hospitality/mutual respect, called “Zeus’s Law” in the film), rooted in the idea that a stranger might be a god in disguise. The suitors’ violation of xenia drives the story’s damage and catastrophe. Any sense of atonement is largely what modern audiences bring to the film (especially in the Odysseus–Penelope reunion) rather than a deliberate Christian overlay; it emerges naturally from exploring the consequences of breaking that law.


This right here is why I laugh when people say, "I don't need a religion to tell me how to act or behave, it's called being a good person." They don't realize just how engrained Christian morality is in our culture. As this woman correctly points out, there was no such thing as the concept of atonement in Ancient Greece. Their ideals, their morality, would have been so foreign to us we would not have been able to recognize them.
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 7:30 am to
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Did you Christianize The Odyssey?


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Nolan says he was not consciously approaching it that way.


Interesting. There was at least one person here, maybe more, who were insistent that the changes he made were based Nolan inserting Christianity.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:02 am to
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There was at least one person here, maybe more, who were insistent that the changes he made were based Nolan inserting Christianity.


I mean...he did insert Christian themes, even if it wasn't a conscious choice, because Christian morality is ubiquitous with modern western society and culture. As the interviewer points out: there was no such thing as the concept of atonement for one's transgressions in Ancient Greece. I'm not saying Christianity has a monopoly on the concept, but it wasn't until that religion took the Roman Empire by storm in the third and fourth centuries that you start seeing the idea begin to creep into the western canon.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 8:03 am
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:19 am to
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I mean...he did insert Christian themes, even if it wasn't a conscious choice, because Christian morality is ubiquitous with modern western society and culture.


Exactly. The morality he’s been exposed to is Judeo-Christian/Western values, so yeah, they might show up when he deviates from the source material but it wasn’t deliberate or any sort of statement. That’s just Nolan being a fish that doesn’t recognize he’s surrounded by water.
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