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re: Game of Thrones S5:E10:"Mother's Mercy", HODORS ONLY(No Book Readers)

Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:17 pm to
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:17 pm to
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Does the show have to wait on the book to know the storyline or will the show now just go whatever course it wants?
I think the producers know what the final outcome of the books is, so there's no problem there. I do think now though, that the books and show will diverge more.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:20 pm to
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That's like, what assassins do bruh
But see, I always thought she'd just learn enough to be a capable Faceless Man, then leave and embark on her revenge spree.

I didn't anticipate the torture she'd do, or the pleasure she took in it, and that look of joy on her face was a little unsettling. But it's why I like her character so much.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:21 pm to
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She also seems to have paid a hefty price for it

Yeah, I know Jon Snow is a bigger story, but I'm shocked that no one is talking about her being blind. I really doubt that that's permanent, but what if it is?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:22 pm to
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But see, I always thought she'd just learn enough to be a capable Faceless Man, then leave and embark on her revenge spree.


You keep saying things like this which are completely contradictory and it's confusing
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:25 pm to
If they get rid of him the show will have such a total lack of narrative center that the quality will decline sharply.

I just can't imagine any way that happens, but I also don't think too much of Martin anyway so I guess who knows.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:27 pm to
I know, it sounds confusing. Like Ned Stark, when he had to kill someone, he did it. He didn't like it, it was just what was necessary and he did it clean. Arya is going totally opposite, torturing dudes and reveling in it, and I thought she'd stay like her father.

I think that might clear it up.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:28 pm to
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I also don't think too much of Martin anyway
How is that even possible?

Without him, none of this exists.
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:29 pm to
All the more reason to love Arya

Ned was an honorable dweeb queef
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:32 pm to
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Yeah, I know Jon Snow is a bigger story, but I'm shocked that no one is talking about her being blind. I really doubt that that's permanent, but what if it is?


It wouldn't surprise me, I take the Faceless Man group as someone to leave entirely unfricked with and Arya defied her orders. Not that I hope she stays blind but she should have been smarter. She doesn't know (and neither does the viewer) who she's dealing with yet.
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:32 pm to
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All the more reason to love Arya
I do. I was just surprised. I've already said she's my favorite character.
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Ned was an honorable dweeb queef
He, Sansa and Myrcella may be the only ones. And Myrcella only because she was a child.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:36 pm to
Usually people try to kill me whenever I tell them how lame Ned was
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Without him, none of this exists.



I find his world building impressive, but his storytelling slightly weak.

Especially everything post Red Wedding. That was essentially the end of a very good story that drove things to that point. I've found the show pretty aimless since then.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Especially everything post Red Wedding. That was essentially the end of a very good story that drove things to that point. I've found the show pretty aimless since then.


Given Martin shite for what the show has done is pretty dumb
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:38 pm to
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She doesn't know (and neither does the viewer) who she's dealing with yet.
We definitely got a taste of it, though. They're capable of so much stuff.

More dangerous: Rhllor, or the Many Faced God?
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Given Martin shite for what the show has done is pretty dumb



He still provided the backbone.

And Martin, D&D, whoever is responsible, the quality of the story has been pretty weak since that point for me.
This post was edited on 6/15/15 at 12:39 pm
Posted by NWHoustonTiger
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:38 pm to
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If they get rid of him the show will have such a total lack of narrative center that the quality will decline sharply.


The question in my mind is "Does the story need a leading male warrior-hero?" Right now, only Jaime kinda/sorta fits that bill. Jon has largely played that role for two seasons and, at a minimum, he will be gone for a substantial part of next season (and he may truly be dead and not coming back). You would think there would have to be a counter-balance to the evil of the Whitewalkers and the Boltons. Or, to put the question another way, now who are the good guys in Westeros?
Posted by FT
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:39 pm to
Ned wasn't lame; he was a great warrior, and he'd probably still be alive if he were just a general.

As soon as he was sucked into the Game, he was done.
Posted by CrippleCreek
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:40 pm to
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Or, to put the question another way, now who are the good guys in Westeros?


it doesn't matter who the "good guys" are, it matters who the good characters are, and there are a LOT fewer of them now than there were in the middle of season 3.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 6/15/15 at 12:41 pm to
Honorable doucher. Ned sucked
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