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re: Full Metal Jacket released 36 years ago today
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:15 pm to CocomoLSU
Posted on 6/27/23 at 9:15 pm to CocomoLSU
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used to agree, but that has changed as I've gotten older. I said this a couple years ago about FMJ:
The second half is criminally underrated, especially since I've become older. When I was younger, I was mainly all about the first half, but man the second half is pretty awesome on its own. It's rugged and real, and tense as frick. It has the greatness that is the sniper scene, and of course, Animal Mother.
Completely agree with this take and nailed it with the age thing having an effect on which half you like better. I now love the second half of this movie.
The movie is like two different movies in one.
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Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:41 am to wesfau
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Adam Baldwin (Animal Mother) was the bodyguard in My Bodyguard.
And Jayne in Firefly.
He would have been a bit too young for principal photography of Apocalypse Now!. As it is Lawrence Fishburne (a year older than the "unrelated to the Baldwin brothers Adam Baldwin") was only 14 when shooting started, having lied about his age.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 6:49 am to SoDakHawk
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Completely agree with this take and nailed it with the age thing having an effect on which half you like better. I now love the second half of this movie.
The movie is like two different movies in one.
Long before I ever watched FMJ, I watched a film called "The Boys in Company C". A Sydney Furie-directed film, ALSO about U.S. Marines completing training then deploying to Vietnam ALSO presented in this bifurcated, "two films in one" format, and ALSO having R. Lee Ermey play a fictionalized version of himself.
I can recommend the film to fans of Kubrick's FMJ for a whole host of reasons. The film unmistakably influenced Kubrick in making of FMJ. It has a really solid cast with standout performances from Andrew Stevens, Stan Shaw, Michael Lembeck, Craig Wasson and James Whitmore, Jr. I should probably make a thread about it, but I'm very lazy.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 7:32 am to SoDakHawk
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I now love the second half of this movie.
Hue City was a meatgrinder. Hue 1968 by Mark Bowden is the most current, objective treatment of that battle.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 8:41 am to Lakeboy7
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Hue City was a meatgrinder.
Not quite Sino-Japanese War or Eastern Front-style, but it did harken back to Korean War combat much more than what was going on in Vietnam, at least since the A Shau Valley. The fact it was large combat formations slugging it out over a urban landscape must have been eerie for older combat troops who had seen combat in either WWII or Korea.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 9:24 am to Ace Midnight
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must have been eerie for older combat troops who had seen combat in either WWII or Korea.
Lots of 3 time losers in Vietnam, which is difficult to comprehend.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:23 am to CocomoLSU
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the second half is pretty awesome on its own. It's rugged and real, and tense as frick. It has the greatness that is the sniper scene,
the fricking sniper scene was always epic. And brutal!
Posted on 6/28/23 at 10:26 am to texas tortilla
I die laughing every time I hear this line.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:07 pm to Lakeboy7
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Hue 1968 by Mark Bowden is the most current, objective treatment of that battle.
there is absolutely nothing objective about Bowden's book on Hue. did you even read it?
Posted on 6/28/23 at 12:41 pm to texas tortilla
I didn't see it in the twitter thread, but the story I heard was Ermey was already on set as a consultant, and the different actors just couldn't pull it off like Ermey, so Kubrick simply offered the part to Ermey, who wasn't an actor, just simply playing himself.
Posted on 6/28/23 at 1:08 pm to deeprig9
That is accurate
Posted on 6/28/23 at 3:18 pm to texas tortilla
One of the best movies ever…. Esp the first 45 mins.
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