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re: Finale of A League of Their Own coming up on FS1
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:13 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:13 pm to Jim Rockford
I was really surprised at the relatively “low” scores for that movie.
78% for RT and 84% for audience. I thought it was a universally loved movie.
78% for RT and 84% for audience. I thought it was a universally loved movie.
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Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:15 pm to Corso
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Never understood why this was always a debate. On purpose
Wouldn't it have been easier to just strike out in the top of the ninth?
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:18 pm to Dam Guide
quote:Ehh, I don’t think so that’s how the interview went. Years later, she kind of hints at it. But it wouldn’t be the first time a creator of IP tells a blatant lie after the fact. George Lucas?
Penny Marshall even said it until people attacked her for it, then she just said it's up to the audience to decide.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:18 pm to Mo Jeaux
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Dropping the ball was a symbolic sacrifice of her old self for her sister, whom she also realizes is an important part of her life.
Ding ding ding. This movie was not about Kit. Not even a little bit.
It was about Dottie.
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:22 pm to The Midnight Rider
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I legitimately don't think she dropped it on purpose. I always thought the point was that Kit had finally bested her sister - stepping out from Dottie's shadow and achieving something completely on her own in the process.
Kit is not the hero and the movie is not about Kit at all. It's literally completely about Dottie. Have you watched it recently? Kit is barely in the movie compared to her having glory at end, her "besting her sister" is not the point. Dottie protecting her sister and choosing what is important is.
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I think a lot of the posters in here would just rather not give a woman credit for her achievement - even a fictional one.
Dottie is the one that needs the "Credit" given, not Kit. I give Dottie credit for not being an a-hole, and learning what to value. That is the question the film asks. It sets up that very question in the beginning.
The film asks, do you value family and friends, or do you value the thing that you are better than everybody at? The entire film then takes off giving Dottie glory, having her win, having a future ahead of her....and giving it all up.
Any interpretation of Dottie being beat requires the film to setup Kit as the hero and HER transformation be the purpose. And that is not the case.
The whole point of the film is Dottie being the best, Dottie loving being the best, and Dottie putting that above family - both her new one and her sister. And that she doesn't want to give it up. The end of the film is not that Dottie is no longer the best, it's that she chooses to walk away from being the best. That's the film's conceit.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 8/14/20 at 1:27 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Apart from all her efforts to keep Kit from even being on the team...and constantly chastising Kit...she wouldn't drop it on purpose just a few minutes away of telling her pitcher how to strike out her sister.
She was giving Kit a final challenge, the literal thing she couldn't hit, if she could beat that part, not the base running against Dottie, then that meant she did her job as a big sister, that Kit could conquer her demon and Dottie could walk away. She could... let go of baseball, literally.
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If she dropped it on purpose, she wouldn't smile at Kit with admiration at the end...like yeah, you beat me.
She was happy because Kit valued winning at baseball more now, and it wasn't a big deal to her any more, that was her transformation.
Dottie's need was to give up the thing she was good at. That's what she needed to do as the hero, not to get beat by someone. The point is much stronger, if she's still the best but she decides to hang it up.
Kit winning makes that a MUCH easier decision, she can walk away comfortably knowing she isn't the best anymore. What kind of sacrifice is that?
ETA: If the battle with Kit was meant to be the center of the film and Kit winning in the end was the point, the setup would have been much different. Instead of Dottie winning all of the time, you would have seen Kit and Dottie trading wins constantly throughout history. Kit wins once. Dottie wins once. Kit wins again. Dottie wins. Etc. The point of that movie is that battling with Kit over who is best is the key to her life and happiness. Dottie would then decide, in the final moment when she loses to Kit in the final game, that the battle is over and pointless. That Kit beat her for this last time and she is giving up the battle. She didn't let go on purpose in that scenario, but she is comfortable never entering the battle again. That's the movie where Kit beats her and she changes.
This post was edited on 8/14/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 8/14/20 at 5:56 pm to Jim Rockford
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You can see Dottie drop the ball on purpose all over again.
Plot twist: Dottie was just starting to develop first signs of ALS. Her condition deteriorated drastically the following months so her sister decided to dedicate an entire season and win another championship in her name.
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