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re: DoD Princess and the Queen discussion (SPOILERS!!!)
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:53 am to DestrehanTiger
Posted on 12/6/13 at 10:53 am to DestrehanTiger
Yeah the Isle of Faces is where the pact was entered into between the Children of the Forest and the First Men.
Also, did anyone pick up how they pulled Aemon from the lake and recovered Dark Sister. That is two references to the blade in the short stories. We know that Brynden Rivers used to carry the sword but it isn't mentioned after he goes to the Wall. It seems too coincidental that Martin would mention it in the short stories so many times.
Also, did anyone pick up how they pulled Aemon from the lake and recovered Dark Sister. That is two references to the blade in the short stories. We know that Brynden Rivers used to carry the sword but it isn't mentioned after he goes to the Wall. It seems too coincidental that Martin would mention it in the short stories so many times.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:04 am to Papercutninja
Wasn't there talk that Littlefinger had Dark Sister hidden in the tapestries?
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Posted on 12/8/13 at 12:37 am to Mr. Wayne
I'm not so sure about Cannibal but I definitely think that Sheepstealer is out there somewhere, if he remained well fed and not confined he could be HUGE but slow by now.
Maybe Jon Snow will somehow find his way to Dragonmont and have a confrontation with Cannibal?
Also can someone explain why Dany is the only Targ that can't get burned? Is that the general release of magic upon the world with the long winter coming?
I also think it's interesting that Addam went to the Greenseers and they actually told him what to do, but never told him of his fate. (Haahaa).
Maybe Jon Snow will somehow find his way to Dragonmont and have a confrontation with Cannibal?
Also can someone explain why Dany is the only Targ that can't get burned? Is that the general release of magic upon the world with the long winter coming?
I also think it's interesting that Addam went to the Greenseers and they actually told him what to do, but never told him of his fate. (Haahaa).
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:32 pm to Mr. Wayne
Kind of skimming here to avoid spoilers, but I'm part of the way through and had to mention the part where Rhaenyra has her stillborn daughter who is "a stillborn girl, twisted and malformed, with a hole in her chest where her heart should've been, and a stubby scaled tail". Sounds eerily similar to Dany's childbirth in the tent.
And especially interesting knowing that Rhaenyra has other children (if I've read correctly).
And especially interesting knowing that Rhaenyra has other children (if I've read correctly).
Posted on 12/8/13 at 10:42 pm to Mr. Wayne
Is there an online PDF for this like the D&E novels?
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:00 pm to BlackleafBaller
You can search for Dangerous Women ePub and find it through one of those links. I linked to a good link that you can download to iBooks through in the Crackpot ASOIAF thread.
This was an okay read, the story was very abruptly ended I thought. But, I enjoyed the narrated sort of style. It's hard to believe that another house didn't take advantage of the weakened state that House Targ was in after most of their dragons were dead and the majority of their heirs dead and dying.
Here's another question:
If you were a player in the Game of Thrones and you came upon and read this story. Would you be more or less scared of Dany with her three dragons?
I would be far less scared...unless Dany had a century to raise her dragons (and immortality also) her dragons will always be whelps, not big enough to do much damage as a fully grown dragon, in ASOIAF. But it does seem that Dany's have or will grow into a major force, perhaps quickened by the magic that seems to have blossomed all over the world?
This was an okay read, the story was very abruptly ended I thought. But, I enjoyed the narrated sort of style. It's hard to believe that another house didn't take advantage of the weakened state that House Targ was in after most of their dragons were dead and the majority of their heirs dead and dying.
Here's another question:
If you were a player in the Game of Thrones and you came upon and read this story. Would you be more or less scared of Dany with her three dragons?
I would be far less scared...unless Dany had a century to raise her dragons (and immortality also) her dragons will always be whelps, not big enough to do much damage as a fully grown dragon, in ASOIAF. But it does seem that Dany's have or will grow into a major force, perhaps quickened by the magic that seems to have blossomed all over the world?
This post was edited on 12/8/13 at 11:02 pm
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:35 pm to TaxmanMSU
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I would be far less scared...unless Dany had a century to raise her dragons (and immortality also) her dragons will always be whelps, not big enough to do much damage as a fully grown dragon, in ASOIAF. But it does seem that Dany's have or will grow into a major force, perhaps quickened by the magic that seems to have blossomed all over the world?
I would be horrified of them.
There was only one free dragon killed by humans that whole war and that was by a navy that was accustomed to fighting them on the step stones and only after sustaining massive casualties.
They're fricking dragons and not a single soul on Westeros has any inkling of an idea on how to fight them.
Posted on 12/8/13 at 11:40 pm to CottonWasKing
And did y'all catch that Aegon the son of Rhaenyra was the Aegon that eventually killed all the dragons.
He hated them because he saw his mother get eaten by one. We've heard that story since Game of Thrones but now we know why she was eaten
He hated them because he saw his mother get eaten by one. We've heard that story since Game of Thrones but now we know why she was eaten
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:52 am to CottonWasKing
Maybe I was in such a rush to finish the story that I missed it (or maybe it is mentioned in other texts) but how did Aegon III come to follow Aegon II as king? Why wouldn't Aegon II wipe out Rhaenyra's line to make sure his line followed?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:10 am to DestrehanTiger
Aegon II was in poor health with no heirs and no wife. He only ruled for a couple more years before his death
Posted on 12/9/13 at 9:28 am to DestrehanTiger
He was kept alive in the dungeons of Dragonstone. Aegon II had one 3 year old son at the end of DoD, who must have later died. I've read elsewhere the Aegon II didn't die long after Rhaenyra was eaten, plus his wife was dead. Rhaenyra supporters ended up winning the war in some fashion, and Aegon III was released and crowned as the only living Targ.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 12:51 pm to Mr. Wayne
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He was kept alive in the dungeons of Dragonstone.
Right, I'm wondering why they didn't kill him to end that line. I'm just thinking Aegon II would rather some other scenario other than the progeny of his war enemy taking the thrown.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:03 pm to DestrehanTiger
That was a better alternative than allowing the Targ line to end altogether
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:09 pm to CottonWasKing
This. If he had more children Aegon III would have been dragon food
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:13 pm to CottonWasKing
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That was a better alternative than allowing the Targ line to end altogether
There were so many bastards in the story, that I lost track. I just assumed that there had to be a half Targ from Aegon II's line that he could legitimize before his death.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:24 pm to DestrehanTiger
Rhaenyra had all the bastards which is one of the reasons she wasn't accepted as the heir
Posted on 12/9/13 at 1:49 pm to DestrehanTiger
I went through the story pretty quickly and haven't reread it yet but I'm fairly certain that Aegon III married one of Aegon II's daughters. Perhaps there was some agreement between both Aegons in regards to the succession and the marriage to maintain the purity of the Targaryen lineage while also uniting those who fought for both sides?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 2:29 pm to CottonWasKing
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Rhaenyra had all the bastards
Allegedly.
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which is one of the reasons she wasn't accepted as the heir
I think it was just a way for the Green's to further diminish their view of her and the Black's. They were only going to follow a son regardless of her childrens parentage.
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:31 pm to CottonWasKing
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There was only one free dragon killed by humans that whole war and that was by a navy that was accustomed to fighting them on the step stones and only after sustaining massive casualties. They're fricking dragons and not a single soul on Westeros has any inkling of an idea on how to fight them.
You make a good point here, but a dome with several was overtaken by a bunch of drunk, angry small folk. Of course there were several hundred people that did this in a confined space against chained up beasts...
We're any of y'all rooting for the dragons to escape and kill all of the people?
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:45 pm to TaxmanMSU
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You make a good point here, but a dome with several was overtaken by a bunch of drunk, angry small folk. Of course there were several hundred people that did this in a confined space against chained up beasts... We're any of y'all rooting for the dragons to escape and kill all of the people?
There were tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of people storming an enclosed space were the dragons couldn't fly. Of course the mob won. But how many thousands upon thousands died in the attempt.
And good luck conveniently having those circumstances pop up again. If the dragons ever get to westeros the armies that oppose them are quite simply fricked. That's not even to mention the infantry of the unsullied and the dothraki light cavalry. With the speed her army will be able to move the armies of westeros stand not the slightest of chances. Unless they have a massive shift in warfare tactics
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