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Posted by Baloo
Formerly MDGeaux
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:51 am to

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To the OP (FM), it's a fricking awesome movie...that's why you like it. It's the epirome of a mindless, over-the-top blockbuster-type movie. Everything is overdone on purpose, even the acting IMO (though there aren't "great" actors in it). It has blood, guts, violence, sex, tits, cheesiness, etc...it's a shitpile of awesome. The only thing it really went easy on was the language.

It works on this level, because Verhooven, man. But it's also a pretty brilliant satire that you don't even need to realize is happening for the movie to work because -- HEY! Blood and boobs!

But the movie is essentially a thorough deconstruction of Heinlein's book, exposing it for the awful Nazi-worshiping piece of trash it is. The book is not as overt in its fascist references, but Verhooven pulls them out and shows the humans as the villains the story, and they are the fanatical fascist state. It's a throwaway line, but it's worth noting the humans started the war, not the bugs.

I think he intentionally used pretty, young, dumb actors to show how people buy into propaganda and get chewed up by it. About the only person in the film aware its a satire is NPH. A self-aware performance by the leads might have ruined it. It's why Denise Richards bad line reading is so perfect. She is brainless.

Man, I love this movie.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30363 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:55 am to
Yep, same reason we watch Wild Things.

Neither is any good but my, my!
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70097 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:57 am to
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Yep, same reason we watch Wild Things.

Neither is any good but my, my!


Bill Murray was pretty awesome in Wild Things. That was a fun movie that gets a bad rep as nothing a Skinimax flick.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 8:59 am to
I was 9 when this movie came out. All the political satire went over my head, and I didn't even think to look for it until relatively recently. I loved this movie for what truly made it great. Killing bugs, tits, action, tits, my parents making the mistake of letting me watch it, and tits.
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39728 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:00 am to
I never understand the dislike for this movie.

the story is interesting. The effects are good. Hot chicks showing tits. Ultra violence. Decent acting. Dr. horrible.

great movie.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30363 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:24 am to
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Bill Murray was pretty awesome in Wild Things. That was a fun movie that gets a bad rep as nothing a Skinimax flick.



You're right on both counts. The cast is pretty good and it's not a bad story, but it's one of those movies you don't want to get caught watching.


Denise Richards is a great spoiled, rich girl & Neve Campbell plays excellent houseboat trash.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:31 am to
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It works on this level, because Verhooven, man. But it's also a pretty brilliant satire that you don't even need to realize is happening for the movie to work because -- HEY! Blood and boobs!

But the movie is essentially a thorough deconstruction of Heinlein's book, exposing it for the awful Nazi-worshiping piece of trash it is. The book is not as overt in its fascist references, but Verhooven pulls them out and shows the humans as the villains the story, and they are the fanatical fascist state. It's a throwaway line, but it's worth noting the humans started the war, not the bugs.

I think he intentionally used pretty, young, dumb actors to show how people buy into propaganda and get chewed up by it. About the only person in the film aware its a satire is NPH. A self-aware performance by the leads might have ruined it. It's why Denise Richards bad line reading is so perfect. She is brainless.

Man, I love this movie.




Winner.
This post was edited on 3/19/13 at 9:34 am
Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 3/19/13 at 9:31 am to
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