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re: Calling all Batman fans and Anti-communists: Board Request

Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:03 am to
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:03 am to
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Batman isn't even the best comic book character


I agree. Batman is second only to:




Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:15 am to
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I disagree. I think Wolverine is the more fleshed out, and human, character in all of comics.



A guy that is basically invulnerable is the most human? Not so sure about that. I don't think Wolverine is more fleshed out either. Anyone that reads Batman comics understands the character very well.

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His story is second to none. He constantly fights the battle with himself to not let the dark side take over. The animal.

Batman is a whiny pansy compared to Wolverine.


YOu essentially described Batman too. He's also constantly in a fight with himself. You think he doesn't want to let a dark side out and throw Joker off of a building? And I certainly wouldn't ever describe Batman as whiny. If anything Wolverine can be whiny about certain things.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134743 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:28 am to
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His story is second to none. He constantly fights the battle with himself to not let the dark side take over. The animal.

This is his weakness, not his strength. The beast allows us to shed that final veneer of humanity and do what must be done.
For all his work, how often do the very criminals he "puts away" escape to deal more death and destruction?
Posted by schexyoung
Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
6721 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 10:50 am to
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This is his weakness, not his strength.


Disagree.


It's his strength to overcome that urge that allows him not to become just another executioner or Punisher. He maintains a reputation with the criminals of going over the edge, but never actually does.

The Batman story is about as tragic of hero story you can have. A man gives up everything to help a city full of people to lethargic to take control themselves. Above that, is the fact that he has no 'powers' or defined guilt of WHY he should help these people other than his own suffering.

So, he must train himself to the peak of human ability both mentally and physically. He lives in a constant state of a psychotic perpetual depression while becoming ever more paraniod about his mission.

Eventually he will just die or the mission ends. When the mission ends what happens to the Batman? Can Bruce Wayne pyschologically cope and exist without it? Hopefully TDKR explores all these issues.
This post was edited on 6/29/12 at 10:54 am
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 11:06 am to
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It's his strength to overcome that urge that allows him not to become just another executioner or Punisher. He maintains a reputation with the criminals of going over the edge, but never actually does.

The Batman story is about as tragic of hero story you can have. A man gives up everything to help a city full of people to lethargic to take control themselves. Above that, is the fact that he has no 'powers' or defined guilt of WHY he should help these people other than his own suffering.

So, he must train himself to the peak of human ability both mentally and physically. He lives in a constant state of a psychotic perpetual depression while becoming ever more paraniod about his mission.

Eventually he will just die or the mission ends. When the mission ends what happens to the Batman? Can Bruce Wayne pyschologically cope and exist without it? Hopefully TDKR explores all these issues.



All very true. Not sure how some people think characters like Wolverine or Superman are better. Don't get me wrong, I like Wolverine a lot, while I'm sort of indifferent towards Superman, but IMO no other comic character can touch Batman.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134743 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 11:49 am to
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It's his strength to overcome that urge that allows him not to become just another executioner or Punisher. He maintains a reputation with the criminals of going over the edge, but never actually does.

And what good does not crossing the edge do?
A knife that cannot cut through flesh is a spoon.
Posted by F machine
Member since Jun 2009
11886 posts
Posted on 6/29/12 at 11:54 am to
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And what good does not crossing the edge do?
A knife that cannot cut through flesh is a spoon.



He's trying to set an example and keep his morals. He doesn't want to become like the people he chases. He wants to be above them. Now in the real world this would probably make more sense, because Arkham Asylum must have the most incompetent guards ever
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