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re: Big Brother 21 - Season Long Thread - Premiere June 25th
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:05 pm to BayouCatFan
Posted on 9/18/19 at 11:05 pm to BayouCatFan
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Have nots is a huge part of the game and he claimed an eating disorder, so they eliminated that in order to placate him.
Eating disorder = you can’t enter the dayum game. That simple. What happened to vetting for mental, physical illnesses, etc.?
This post was edited on 9/18/19 at 11:07 pm
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Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:29 am to HHS7
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:30 am to BayouCatFan
Something doesn't add up with the way Cliff played most of the game compared to how he acted this past week. Tonight he looked like a hostage to production in the DR; we need you to keep mentioning your deal with Michie over and over to fill an episode
Posted on 9/19/19 at 4:34 am to HHS7
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Eating disorder = you are removed from the game and not shielded from punishment .
FIFY
He was sneaking food into the shower and then going off on production when they caught him doing it. Zero repercussions.
And just curious: away from winning comps, how did Jackson save this season? It took Nicole and Cliff to take Christie out. If you watch feeds all he and Holly do is fight or frick in the shower. Or eat watermelon. Even in a house with fewer people I wouldn’t go as far to say Jackson saved this season or is an entertaining player.
He evicted Anallice, Jess and Tommy. Take away most comp wins and is he really a slam dunk winner when you look at his lack of social game? Here’s his quote from last night:
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Jackson to himself- Are you fricking kidding me? Are you fricking kidding me? You are going to threaten me with fricking jury votes? #BB21
Jury votes are kind of important in this game.
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The face of a man who just found out the 500k he's been spending in his head for the last few days isn't coming. #BB21
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 4:47 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 6:49 am to AHM21
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His actions compromised the integrity of the game
I understand what you’re saying ... but that ship sailed a longggggg time ago.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:29 am to AHM21
What about Bayley and her unprotected sex and being pregnant, she wasn’t kicked out
Posted on 9/19/19 at 7:36 am to Smokedawg
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What about Bayley and her unprotected sex and being pregnant, she wasn’t kicked out
She also had a "miscarriage" and wasn't in the final three with a chance to win.
I get that this is a different game than it was in the beginning of the show but the rules still matter to fans of the game. Cliff and Nicole (fans of the game) aren't even aware of Jackson breaking rules because he was protected by production. Would a penalty nom or some other form of punishment for breaking rules impact the jury like Cliff getting evicted and coming back would? I think so. Rules matter. Others followed rules and were have nots this season - even if it was only for a week or two. Do they so freely give Jackson a pass for saying frick the rules?
Even if you put that aside and say he's the most deserving of Nicole or Holly - he's played a shite poor game and has enough people who hate him in jury to find a way to lose. He reminds me of a southern Paul - except Paul lost due to outsiders and not those who were actually part of his own alliance.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 7:40 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 9:02 am to AHM21
Last night Julie mentioned we will get to see the jury house and that it has been a wild two weeks. I assume that coincides with Christie's arrival and her probably spilling the beans on her and Tommy knowing one another. IMO, the jury's reaction is going to give us insight on how they vote in regards to Jackson.
What I mean is that Christie and to an extent Tommy very much led the house for much of the season. They decided what should happen and the others followed. If the rest of the jury is pissed at them now, then any influence they previously had probably goes away. If jury doesn't think their knowing one another was a big deal, then the rest of the jury will be swayed by who Christie thinks should win.
The last couple weeks we have had other house guests give us takes on their feelings regarding Jackson. Tommy point blank told him he didn't think he deserved to win. Kat evidently ripped apart a Jackson doll in jury, which showed she is still pissed. Cliff thinks he double crossed him and has promised to wreck his game in jury. Last night Jackson went into a rage over Cliffs threat and Nicole called him a hypocrite and said he has been strong arming and intimidating others to do what he wants all summer. In other words, he is not well liked and if Christie still has any influence with the others he isn't going to win. If they are pissed at her then their anger probably makes them forget any resentment towards Jackson and just vote for him because of his comp wins.
Not really sure how anyone could say Jackson has saved the season. I would say the exact opposite in that he has wrecked the season due to his endless list of character flaws and bullying. Nearly every episode has been bad tv or cringe worthy, which is mostly due to Jackson's poor behavior.
Sure he has controlled things the last month or so and made a great move against Tommy, but he will never be considered a great or even good player. If Derrick, Tyler or Dan had made that kind of move they would be lauded for greatest player ever, but all Jackson will ever get credit for is being a piece of shite who made a lucky move in a horrible season.
Of all the people on this season the person who I would want to sit next to in F2 would be Jackson because his jury management has been horrendous. IMO, assuming Christie/Tommy are not jury enemy number one I dont think Jackson has a shot in hell to win. That is not someone who should be considered a season savior. More like season destroyer.
What I mean is that Christie and to an extent Tommy very much led the house for much of the season. They decided what should happen and the others followed. If the rest of the jury is pissed at them now, then any influence they previously had probably goes away. If jury doesn't think their knowing one another was a big deal, then the rest of the jury will be swayed by who Christie thinks should win.
The last couple weeks we have had other house guests give us takes on their feelings regarding Jackson. Tommy point blank told him he didn't think he deserved to win. Kat evidently ripped apart a Jackson doll in jury, which showed she is still pissed. Cliff thinks he double crossed him and has promised to wreck his game in jury. Last night Jackson went into a rage over Cliffs threat and Nicole called him a hypocrite and said he has been strong arming and intimidating others to do what he wants all summer. In other words, he is not well liked and if Christie still has any influence with the others he isn't going to win. If they are pissed at her then their anger probably makes them forget any resentment towards Jackson and just vote for him because of his comp wins.
Not really sure how anyone could say Jackson has saved the season. I would say the exact opposite in that he has wrecked the season due to his endless list of character flaws and bullying. Nearly every episode has been bad tv or cringe worthy, which is mostly due to Jackson's poor behavior.
Sure he has controlled things the last month or so and made a great move against Tommy, but he will never be considered a great or even good player. If Derrick, Tyler or Dan had made that kind of move they would be lauded for greatest player ever, but all Jackson will ever get credit for is being a piece of shite who made a lucky move in a horrible season.
Of all the people on this season the person who I would want to sit next to in F2 would be Jackson because his jury management has been horrendous. IMO, assuming Christie/Tommy are not jury enemy number one I dont think Jackson has a shot in hell to win. That is not someone who should be considered a season savior. More like season destroyer.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:21 am to BayouCatFan
Nicole and Cliff pulled off the biggest move this summer by taking Christie out, even if they made a dumb move in keeping Holly. I agree that Christie and Tommy to a lesser extent were running the game. Sure Michie manipulated Cliff/Nicole but at this point it looks like screwing Cliff over is going to cost him.
I do buy into the social media rumors that Jackson’s mom is threatening legal action and influencing some of this. It makes no sense otherwise for production to be handing him the most important Veto of the season.
I do buy into the social media rumors that Jackson’s mom is threatening legal action and influencing some of this. It makes no sense otherwise for production to be handing him the most important Veto of the season.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:25 am to AHM21
I remember several examples of people cheating on slop. Nobody cares anymore.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:48 am to illuminatic
Did production follow those instances by ending slop for the season and follow that up by stacking the storage room with the person who broke the rules favorite items?
It’s more than simply “he was eating in the shower on slop.” They twisted the game to accommodate him. That shouldn’t happen and that person shouldn’t win.
I’d feel the same if it was Brett from last season. Jackson’s douchebagedness has nothing to do with it.
It’s more than simply “he was eating in the shower on slop.” They twisted the game to accommodate him. That shouldn’t happen and that person shouldn’t win.
I’d feel the same if it was Brett from last season. Jackson’s douchebagedness has nothing to do with it.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 10:51 am
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:51 am to AHM21
Did he really screw Cliff over though? I feel like the gameplay and lies are mild compared to past seasons, but we're in a time where they all get their feelings hurt when common sense should tell them that they're getting lied to.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 10:57 am to BayouCatFan
Cliff talking to cameras this morning said he doesn't want to be a bitter juror. He hasn't made up mind yet, but he may still vote for Jackson since he played the best game. He said he was using the threats as game tactic.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:37 am to AHM21
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I do buy into the social media rumors that Jackson’s mom is threatening legal action and influencing some of this. It makes no sense otherwise for production to be handing him the most important Veto of the season.
What is all this? Threatening legal action for what? CBS would bury them in legal costs.
While I have no doubt that production heavily influences the game, I would think Michie would be the last person that CBS wants to win since he is the exact opposite of the SJW agenda that the network has pushed for years.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:50 am to BayouCatFan
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If jury doesn't think their knowing one another was a big deal, then the rest of the jury will be swayed by who Christie thinks should win.
Jack and Kat should both be livid.
Jack is a psycho and blew up his alliance because of Christie and her freaking out about Kat and Holly “knowing” each other, aka following each other on Instagram.
I think he’ll lock in on that hypocrisy as the reason he didn’t win and vote Jackson because he’ll think he would be sitting next to him and still bromancing if it wasn’t for Christie’s manipulation and deceit.
Kat should be even more upset because she was the one directly targeted for knowing someone but is probably too cool for that and will just be like you bitch lol.
She will vote for Holly or Nicole over Jackson.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 11:58 am to Smoke7024
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Did he really screw Cliff over though? I feel like the gameplay and lies are mild compared to past seasons, but we're in a time where they all get their feelings hurt when common sense should tell them that they're getting lied to.
The last two seasons have been decided by Cody voting against Paul and Bayleigh voting against Tyler. You just can't win this game by being an a-hole all season and ruling through power.
Even if common sense should've prevailed, Jackson made the promise and broke it. If Cliff votes against him because of it, it shouldn't be surprising and I wouldn't really fault him.
Also Jackson has hinted at making a veto speech during the live show tonight that blasts Cliff. Even this late he isn't playing to win.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:00 pm to Smoke7024
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Did he really screw Cliff over though?
Some, but not as much as Cliff did himself by not keeping Tommy after the house meeting. Once that meeting happened you had two people going after eachother, and he didn’t need any guarantees then to make final 3. It would have happened without intervention.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:02 pm to tk for tu juan
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Once that meeting happened you had two people going after eachother, and he didn’t need any guarantees then to make final 3. It would have happened without intervention.
I agree with this.
Cliff/Nicole should've taken the shot at Holly once it was revealed that they were considering it.
This post was edited on 9/19/19 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 9/19/19 at 12:16 pm to AHM21
I agree that you can't win by being an a-hole. I'm saying that Cliff should look in the mirror in this particular situation and not blame Jackson for breaking a deal. He looks foolish and petty.
Posted on 9/19/19 at 2:01 pm to AHM21
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screwing Cliff over is going to cost him.
As I was reading through the comments I was laughing because it was clear certain people were just mad because Nicole and Cliff probably won’t win and Jackson is probably going to the end. Before I could post that opinion, I read what I quoted here and realized this quote proved everything I was thinking.
You seem to consider yourself a “super fan”. If that is true, you should know what I quoted is bullshite. Anyone with a lick of sense can see that Cliff is an idiot and Jackson didn’t screw him over. For you to say what you said proves you are coming from an extremely biased place.
Also, you continue to claim Jackson has had a poor social game and poorly managed the jury. Let’s be real, that shite is personal because Christie is a manipulative bitch, and the rest are idiots. Even Tommy was done with her at a certain point. Jackson hasn’t done anything to these people to make them a bitter jury.
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