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re: Big Brother 18 - Season Long Thread (SPOILERS)
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:24 pm to FalseProphet
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:24 pm to FalseProphet
James screwed up by winning the HoH, but Frank dug his own grave by telling everyone in the 8 Pack back in week 2 or 3 (the week he was controlling Bridgette's HoH) that they need to think about targeting all of the rest of the members. Who in the hell does that? You have to know that people are going to compare notes, especially when they are all in the same alliance. Frank has played probably the worst game so far this season considering how good of a position he was in entering that week.
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Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:30 pm to crimsonsaint
That's even worse, you know Day doesn't like you so you give here info that blows up someone's game that is at least giving you info. Then you exposed Nicole in front of her and say put her on the block. That was some Jozea level of gameplay.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 8:41 pm to Weagle25
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I like James and all but he's just a flat out terrible player
What? He did the best thing for his game going forward. Piss off 2 people (one of which is going home) or piss off the rest of the house entirely? It's the only smart decision he had to make! Had he put up anyone other 2 people (minus Vic maybe) he would have at least one if not more than 1 person coming after him. Right now , he still has nobody coming after him except Bridgette and give a shite. 1 person coming after me or multiple? I'm going with one. Smart move by James. Also a move that y'all KNOW he didn't want to make. The guys a stand up guy , but he isn't stupid. He feels bad about it but understands it was in only play with the WHOLE HOUSE going after Frank.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:00 pm to NashBamaFan
Terribly shortsighted decision.
Get out a player that isn't gunning for you and possibly thinks you're on his side just so you can remain at the bottom of the totem pole of an alliance that will be forced to come after you in a few weeks. Yeah great decision.
He could have easily gone after Vic and pissed no one off which would have got a guy out that he's had spats with before and would keep the alliance from thinking he's going after them. You don't do other people's dirty work for them just because it's "what the house wants". He's going to need to flip on that alliance eventually but he won't because it's not what he does.
They come to you and say "WTH why didn't you put up Frank?!" You say "I've had fights with Vic before and I feel like he'll come after me hard plus he's a comp beast" and everything's good from there.
Get out a player that isn't gunning for you and possibly thinks you're on his side just so you can remain at the bottom of the totem pole of an alliance that will be forced to come after you in a few weeks. Yeah great decision.
He could have easily gone after Vic and pissed no one off which would have got a guy out that he's had spats with before and would keep the alliance from thinking he's going after them. You don't do other people's dirty work for them just because it's "what the house wants". He's going to need to flip on that alliance eventually but he won't because it's not what he does.
They come to you and say "WTH why didn't you put up Frank?!" You say "I've had fights with Vic before and I feel like he'll come after me hard plus he's a comp beast" and everything's good from there.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:07 pm to Weagle25
The rest of the damn house is all one alliance! Of course everyone is going to eventually have to flip on everyone. It's BB. Every week your there is a positive week. Nobody in that house is even thinking about going after James right now. Including Vic. I may be in the minority but I think he did the smart thing this week. It's what I would of done and worry about next week , next week. shite changes in a day to day basis in that house. He's aware that Bridgette , Day , and Vic are all in front of him on the chopping block for everyone in that house. I think it won't long before Z and Michelle or included in that group before this next week is done.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:16 pm to NashBamaFan
Eh, if you'd have done the exact same thing, you'd have also cost yourself a chance to win.
There's a good reason you should never do "what the House wants." Case in point, James put up Frank because the House wanted him gone. Now, at least some people may be wavering on that, which could blow up in James' face.
The House doesn't give a shite about your game, and there really never is a true House consensus. James should have put up Vic and Paul and stayed away from the drama.
There's a good reason you should never do "what the House wants." Case in point, James put up Frank because the House wanted him gone. Now, at least some people may be wavering on that, which could blow up in James' face.
The House doesn't give a shite about your game, and there really never is a true House consensus. James should have put up Vic and Paul and stayed away from the drama.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:24 pm to FalseProphet
How would putting up Paul be "staying away from the drama"? Paul has fully immersed himself into the group. Vic just came back in the door and will now see this as James their throwing him a bone. Look, I like fireworks too and it does make BB more enjoyable to watch but I'm pulling for James this season and this was his best move. Obviously , in the next couple weeks we will all find out for sure who's right , but I believe he did the safe thing. Doing the safe thing with 11 people still in the house is smart in my opinion.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:25 pm to NashBamaFan
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The rest of the damn house is all one alliance!
Not even close to being true.
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Of course everyone is going to eventually have to flip on everyone. It's BB.
Then why not put yourself in a better position for when it does flip? AKA playing both sides of the house which he would've been able to continue if he didn't go after Frank.
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Nobody in that house is even thinking about going after James right now. Including Vic.
Key word: right now. That's why I said it's a short sighted decision.
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I may be in the minority but I think he did the smart thing this week. It's what I would of done and worry about next week , next week.
If you're not in the minority I should sign up for BB tomorrow.
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shite changes in a day to day basis in that house.
It really doesn't though. Every great player has had a long term plan. Now you will have to tweak it every now and then and make desperate moves sometimes but overall the script usually flips two or three times per season. I mean go look at Ian's plan heading into his season. It pretty much played out just as he said it would.
You wait it out the first couple of weeks. Form an alliance with 5ish people. Dwindle down the other side. Flip on your side and work with the others. Dwindle down that side. Then boom you're at the center of things at the end. Win a few comps at the end and you're the winner.
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He's aware that Bridgette , Day , and Vic are all in front of him on the chopping block for everyone in that house.
And he's just going to stand by and watch while they get chopped and then he has no side of the house to flip too. Same shite he did his last season.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:26 pm to NashBamaFan
Yeah people forget this is a game. This is like intentionally fouling a basketball player at the end of the name. Sucks to watch but it's necessary
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:32 pm to Weagle25
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And he's just going to stand by and watch while they get chopped and then he has no side of the house to flip too. Same shite he did his last season.
James thinks the final 6 will be
James/Nat
Paulie/Zak
Nicole/Corey
And I think he's right. And if he's right by that time it's 2 vs 2 vs 2 anyway
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:34 pm to NashBamaFan
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How would putting up Paul be "staying away from the drama"?
You put up a guy that you've had fights with in the past and either say Paul is a pawn or you knew Paul would be a vote for Victor to stay and you thought if you put up Frank, he would be a bigger target than Vic and people would vote him out.
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Vic just came back in the door and will now see this as James their throwing him a bone
Do you honestly think Vic is going to ever really work with James just because he didn't put him up this week? Because he's not
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Doing the safe thing with 11 people still in the house is smart in my opinion.
Now is exactly the time to start positioning yourself for the end.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:35 pm to Byron Bojangles III
There isn't a person in that 6 who is smart enough or savvy enough to make it that far holding that together.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:35 pm to Weagle25
Time will tell.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:36 pm to NashBamaFan
CHANCES Frank pulls this out? Im thinking better than 50%
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:37 pm to Byron Bojangles III
He and Natalie are at the bottom of that group so it's more like 4 v 2. That group is great for Natalie though. Plus your vision at this point never turns out to be the complete truth. It's better to keep yourself good with everybody than play to one side of the house.
This post was edited on 7/24/16 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:38 pm to slapahoe
Production will save him. There isn't a scenario in the next few weeks where a super power would get as much attention from fans as this one.
I mean, they announced the secret room (and apparently built it) the same week it was almost a certainty Frank would be the target if didn't win HOH.
I mean, they announced the secret room (and apparently built it) the same week it was almost a certainty Frank would be the target if didn't win HOH.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:38 pm to NashBamaFan
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Time will tell.
It already has in almost every season of Big Brother.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:40 pm to Weagle25
Well I didn't realize that you knew what everyone in that house was/is going to do before I voiced my opinion. And , yeah , I think James could easily get Vic on his side after this week. Vic knew he had a huge chance of walking right back out the door and it didn't happen. James could easily play that to his advantage. He also has Day and Nicole on his side for sure (which also means Corey is on his side) and I think Paulie really thinks Jamea is a final 4 type person. So he's in good shape as of now. Had he not done what these people wanted he would have lost 3 maybe 4 guaranteed allies in the house.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:46 pm to NashBamaFan
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Had he not done what these people wanted he would have lost 3 maybe 4 guaranteed allies in the house.
No he wouldn't have. And if he didn't do what he did, you could add Frank and Bridgette to that list.
Posted on 7/24/16 at 9:46 pm to slapahoe
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CHANCES Frank pulls this out? Im thinking better than 50%
Well Michelle won veto so 0%
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