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re: Ben Affleck's Batman Future in Doubt as Warner Bros. Plots Franchise

Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:59 pm to
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I mean, that's a good thing and all, but what a complete and total clusterfrick.


Take a breath. Their clusterfrick just put out a critically acclaimed film that is the top domestic grossing superhero movie of the year.

The RUMOR is that they're gracefully exiting Affleck. That might mean two Justice Leagues with cameos here and there, might mean he stays for only one Batman film after the Justice League movies.

The guy will end up being in four or five movies total as Batman. Casting an older Batman, I doubt that they had planned on him staying for ten films.

Keep in mind that before Wonder Woman premiered, we had multiple rumor posts claiming that it was going to be a complete mess.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Their clusterfrick just put out a critically acclaimed film that is the top domestic grossing superhero movie of the year.


Even a blind squirrel will eventually find an acorn
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:15 pm to
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Even a blind squirrel will eventually find an acorn


Agreed. I've upvoted at least three of your posts over the past ten years.
Posted by lsutigersFTW
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:20 pm to
Obviously just make a movie called "Bruce" and steal the plot of Logan. That's one way to phase him out lol.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:29 pm to
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Well there would have to be a 10-15 year difference between the second and third Batman if they did it that way


I have no problem with that. Something rough outlined like this:

1st act of movie 1: Dick Grayson family tragedy and meeting with Batman.

Training montage/time passes. And small villain fight establishing Grayson as a competent sidekick.

2nd Act: Grayson is an older teenager and fighting crime with Batman. Cue main movie villain.

3rd Act: Grayson is shown to be a competent fighter in his own right and helps Batman fight main villain.

Ending: Batman and Robin continue to fight crime together, Batman says something along the lines of "you can't stay under my wing forever" as he unveils the Nightwing costume and the credits roll.

Movie 2:

1st act opens with Nightwing being awesome and fighting crime by himself. Clearly establishing that he's been doing that for a while. One night him and Batman meet Jason Todd. (I'm torn on which origin I like better. Batman catching him stealing as a misguided youth and deciding to train him or Grayson officially passing the mantle to him after a tragedy)

2nd Act: show Todd clearly as an overzealous/ rebellious Robin but competent as a fighter.

3rd Act: Batman, Todd, and Nightwing fight a main villain. In the chaos of the fight Todd disappears and Batman and Nightwing don't know where he is.

The movie ends with a cliffhanger of the Joker laughing as he stands over Todd's body in a warehouse.

Movie 3: Under The Red Hood.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:31 pm to
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Agreed. I've upvoted at least three of your posts over the past ten years.


Posted by finchmeister08
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 2:51 pm to
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Obviously just make a movie called "Bruce" and steal the plot of Logan. That's one way to phase him out lol.

i'd watch that.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:38 pm to
Is this going to turn into Spider-Man where we see three different franchise iterations within a relatively short timeframe?

At least in the 90's when they swapped Batman actors several times it had more of a Bond movie feel instead of constant rebooting.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 3:41 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:42 pm to
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Is this going to turn into Spider-Man where we see three different franchise iterations within a relatively short timeframe?


15 Years is a short time-frame?

Logan is the only movie superhero character to have that long of a run without a reboot of some kind.
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 3:52 pm to
It was less than 10 years between the 3 Spider-Man actors.

Spider-Man 3 came out in 2007, Amazing Spider-Man debuted in 2012, and the current Spider-Man made his first appearance in the MCU last year.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 4:13 pm to
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It was less than 10 years between the 3 Spider-Man actors.


If you're okay with the three Batman actors that we had in five years then you should be good to go. We won't see a new Batman for another three years.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:12 pm to
Considering that Leto's joker is Tim Drake, I could see a world with Batman beyond
Posted by Geauxlden Eagle
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:43 pm to
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favorite suit from the Batman universe


That's not Batman. That's some kind of abomination created to sell comics/toys to young kids
Posted by Bmath
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 6:46 pm to
It's not the actors so much as I don't feel like they are really moving the story along.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:09 pm to
Or they could have Darkseid kill Batman and Dick Grayson take the cowl.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 8:18 pm to
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Their clusterfrick just put out a critically acclaimed film that is the top domestic grossing superhero movie of the year.


That Snyder had very little involvement in and wasn't allowed to touch the script at all.

I know you still like Snyder and it's hard for you to let him go but my god man he doesn't need you defending himself at every step even he would agree that he did a terrible job with the last few movies.
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:11 pm to
Since nobody bit on my first post

Tim Drake isn't actually dead in this Universe... he's the 2nd iteration of Joker... Jared Leto himself

Also, ETA, PS: If you watch the video, you will also learn that Grayson has been dead since before Batman took on the mantle, which means they would have to ret-con him back into the world... so you can all settle down about Grayson taking on the Batman mantle
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:24 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:27 pm to
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he's the 2nd iteration of Joker... Jared Leto himself


Man I was hopeful about Leto, but there's a reason his scenes were cut.

Have yall watched the extended and deleted scenes? They're horrible:

What were Leto, the director, and the screenwriters thinking?
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:35 pm
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:34 pm to
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If you watch the video, you will also learn that Grayson has been dead since before Batman took on the mantle,


I had never seen that gravestone before, but I am seething with anger right now. Like beyond blinded with rage.

What in the actual frick is that all about? Why even put that in the movie? Why? Explain it to me.

ETA:

Seriously. frick them. Born 1982 Died 2000. They killed Grayson at 18 years old 16 years before the movie came out?

I hate DC's cinematic universe.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 9:39 pm
Posted by BaddestAndvari
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 9:41 pm to
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If you watch the video, you will also learn that Grayson has been dead since before Batman took on the mantle,


I had never seen that gravestone before, but I am seething with anger right now. Like beyond blinded with rage.

What in the actual frick is that all about? Why even put that in the movie? Why? Explain it to me.


you take this stuff super serious, don't you? Just be happy that the moron Snyder has been taken off these movies and one of the smartest men on the planet has stepped in:



Johns can turn it around, he has shown us this time and time and time and time again. All that matters is in the end we get a good product, and Johns is the best bet we have for that.

2nd: eh, they can make it work, especially if they go the route above - and as for Leto's Joker, I kinda like it. With a little bit of character development and more exposure Leto's Joker could actually be one of the closest iterations of Joker to the comic book ever. But that just brings me back to my first point: let's put our trust in John's hands and move on... can't undo what Snyder did, but you can move forward with Geoff Johns at the helm and keep getting better
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