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Been watching WWII movies; a thought occurred. Why no WWII movies from a German view
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:04 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:04 am
Been watching Saving Private Ryan and BoB again...
We've seen all these WWII movies from the viewpoints of the ally forces... US, Britain, etc...
I think it would be interesting to make a movie from the viewpoint of a Nazi battalion or squad. A good movie to show how Germans were indoctrinated to serve and would follow the early German efforts from their viewpoints. A movie showing the Blitzkrieg into France and Norway (may not be that exciting though since the French abandoned Paris) as an example..
It would be sort of cool to watch a BoB type series from a German viewpoint though.
And I'm not talking about a movie that glorifies the Nazi effort or anything like that.
Just thought it would be a cool idea. Getting to see the war from their viewpoints.
The documentary on Netflix: Greatest Moments of WWII in color got me thinking about this. So many opportunities missed by both sides early in the war that could've ended it or could've handed Germany a V in Europe. Good doc btw.
We've seen all these WWII movies from the viewpoints of the ally forces... US, Britain, etc...
I think it would be interesting to make a movie from the viewpoint of a Nazi battalion or squad. A good movie to show how Germans were indoctrinated to serve and would follow the early German efforts from their viewpoints. A movie showing the Blitzkrieg into France and Norway (may not be that exciting though since the French abandoned Paris) as an example..
It would be sort of cool to watch a BoB type series from a German viewpoint though.
And I'm not talking about a movie that glorifies the Nazi effort or anything like that.
Just thought it would be a cool idea. Getting to see the war from their viewpoints.
The documentary on Netflix: Greatest Moments of WWII in color got me thinking about this. So many opportunities missed by both sides early in the war that could've ended it or could've handed Germany a V in Europe. Good doc btw.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:09 am
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:14 am to i am dan
History is written by the winners. Hard to have a hero when dealing with the Nazis. Best you will get is Valkyre.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:17 am to LSUDonMCO
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History is written by the winners. Hard to have a hero when dealing with the Nazis. Best you will get is Valkyre.
This isn't about winning/losing. I'm imagining a movie that just presents more details from their side in a "movie" format rather than a documentary. Documentaries already exist doing this, but a high dollar blockbuster type movie would be pretty interesting to watch.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:19 am to ThisIsTheWay
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frick the Nazis
I agree. I'm not implying glorifying them.
Start from the beginning of Hitler's rise to the surrender in Europe.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:20 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:23 am to i am dan
Das Boot is a pretty good German WW2 movie that is entirely from the German perspective.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:26 am to i am dan
We got Jojo Rabbit in 2019 which would probably make my Top 10 movies of the 2010s.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:28 am to i am dan
Das Boot
The Longest Day had some German perspective if I recall
Downfall
The Longest Day had some German perspective if I recall
Downfall
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:28 am to i am dan
Downfall showed the Fuhrerbunker during the last two weeks. Based on Traudl Junge's memoir and other eyewitness accounts.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:30 am to i am dan
quote:
This isn't about winning/losing. I'm imagining a movie that just presents more details from their side in a "movie" format rather than a documentary. Documentaries already exist doing this, but a high dollar blockbuster type movie would be pretty interesting to watch.
If you're a German or Austrian filmmaker, making a film about a war you lost is fairly tough, especially with the controversy surrounding the "Clean Wehrmacht" myth and having to walk a line between having some sort of protagonist while also not gassing over atrocities.
Its not impossible, and the best attempt at something similar was Letters From Iwo Jima, but that was essentually meant to be a companion piece to Flags Of Our Fathers. It's better than FooF, but wasn't blockbuster by any stretch and was made by an American filmmaker.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:36 am to i am dan
Generation War - 2013 miniseries that is quite good.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:39 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Downfall showed the Fuhrerbunker during the last two weeks. Based on Traudl Junge's memoir and other eyewitness accounts.
It’s on Amazon Prime as well. Highly recommend checking this one out.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:39 am to i am dan
Cross of Iron, Conspiracy, Valkyrie, Das Boot, The Bunker, Rommel the Desert Fox and Downfall.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 11:47 am
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:41 am to i am dan
If you haven't watched Conspiracy, you don't know how to WWII.
It is all Nazi and available on HBO Max.
It is all Nazi and available on HBO Max.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:46 am to i am dan
The Young Lions - a 1958 movie covers both sides
Someone mentioned above - Generation War, the dialog is in German with English subtitles.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 11:56 am to blueridgeTiger
As a few others have mentioned: Das Boot.
If you've never seen it, do yourself a favor. Imo, the greatest "foreign" film ever.
If you've never seen it, do yourself a favor. Imo, the greatest "foreign" film ever.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:01 pm to Amadeo
Thanks all, I'll check out the one's mentioned.
Would be nice to have something like this made today with our special effects and such.
I'll certainly give Das Boot, Downfall and Generation War a look.
Would be nice to have something like this made today with our special effects and such.
I'll certainly give Das Boot, Downfall and Generation War a look.
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:22 pm to NavyLSUAlum
quote:Others off the top of my head:
Cross of Iron, Conspiracy, Valkyrie, Das Boot, The Bunker, Rommel the Desert Fox and Downfall.
The Young Lions w/Brando
Morituri w/Brando
A Time To Love and a Time To Die -- from E.M. Remarque's novel; he also appears as an actor
Der Brucke (The Bridge) 1959
There's a German film about Valkyrie from 1955 called 20 Juli or something like that which I'd like to watch, but I can't find it w/English subtitles. It was controversial when first released as it portrayed the conspirators as heroes, which some Germans still had a problem with.
Samuel Fuller's Verboten (1958) deals w/the US occupation and The "Wolves" group trying to set up a guerilla operation.
Some German movie about Stalingrad from around 1959 but I forgot the title.
The Hitler Gang (1944). The first H'wood to tell the Hitler story, filled w/Jewish character actors playing the people who forced them to flee Germany. Much better than the similar Hitler (1961) w/Richard Basehart.
Luther Adler, who played Hitler in The Desert Fox, also played him in a low budget movie called The Magic Face or something like that, but I've never seen it.
A movie where Van Johnson leads a group English-speaking infiltrators, I think it may be called Blitzkrieg (1958). A similar group is led by Ty Harden in The Battle Of The Bulge (1965). BotB is also notable for showing The Malmedy Massacre, the only H'wood film I know of to do so.
Jack Hawkins made a movie about an Englishman who defects to Germany and becomes a General in the German army; in reality he is a British double agent. Very loosely based on a true story. Again can't recall the title.
Five Fingers, a favorite of mine, was James Mason's follow up to The Desert Fox. He plays a spy who sells the Overlord plans to the Germans. Again, loosely based on a true story.
ETA: The Bridge At Remagen has George Segal and Ben Gazzara as GIs but also Robert Vaughn as the German officer ordered to blow the bridge
Is Paris Burning? concerns Hitler's order for the German army to destroy Paris before leaving the city. FWIW the General who disobeyed the order and saved Paris was later a POW at Camp Clinton, just outside Jackson MS
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:45 pm to Fewer Kilometers
quote:is that the one where they sit around a table talking for two hours?
If you haven't watched Conspiracy, you don't know how to WWII.
It is all Nazi
Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:48 pm to i am dan
Triumph of the will
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