re: A Review of the Original Star Wars Trilogy by a Modern SW Fan

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The last thing the board needs is another SW thread

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Oh thank God.

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Where are you getting the idea that is a TLJ bashing thread?

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It's not a TLJ bashing thread. WTF are you talking about? This was a discussion about him getting shouted down in the threads he's been visiting. Guess which threads he's been visiting.

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Snoke exists, that's all that matters

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How? Where did he come from and who trained him?

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Guess which threads he's been visiting.

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Every TLJ here is a bashing thread. If it's not, give it 5 posts and it will be.

That's my entire point.

You need better comprehension man. I've said it 3 different ways. People with other opinions are getting shite on. The hate is real.

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I disagree. We have to assume there has been decades between RoTJ and TLJ/TFA. You don't have to explain everything. Snoke exists, that's all that matters. "The rules of the universe" don't exist.

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You do if you are connecting everything to that.

Notice, that we don't really get an explanation of the First Order outside of the "remnants of the Empire." People aren't really complaining about that directly. Everyone is fine that this is just the Empire rebuilt.

No one is asking where they get their money from. How are they finding soldiers if these are not clones (we have Finn's story that that's it)., etc. We also aren't asking for any background on Hux or Maz, or a variety of other characters.

But a certain amount of importance and mystery was placed on Snoke, not on a random Bounty Hunter, not on a side character. He was the big bad, of a power where people often feel "disturbances" when someone powerful is around. He also looks old and mangled...which lead to the Plagieus or even Emperor theories. It looks like he suffered greatly, which again, given the presence of someone like the Sith and Jedi, build mystery. We also have the rules of "balance" and if Kylo and Snoke exists then there must be another to Rey. Right?

If he is THAT old then he throws a wrench into the whole balance theme of the OT, that's a problem. And if we are building "new rules" to the Universe, then you have to account for the old rules.

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How? Where did he come from and who trained him?

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it doesn't matter. he is only there to push Ren's arc. Literally the only reason he exists. he could be from a seed of Vader's nut rag, who cares.

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it does service kylo ren's arc except that he goes right back to being the same kylo ren

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Ren is such a great character and was completely wasted in this film.

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You do if you are connecting everything to that.

Notice, that we don't really get an explanation of the First Order outside of the "remnants of the Empire." People aren't really complaining about that directly. Everyone is fine that this is just the Empire rebuilt.

No one is asking where they get their money from. How are they finding soldiers if these are not clones (we have Finn's story that that's it)., etc. We also aren't asking for any background on Hux or Maz, or a variety of other characters.

But a certain amount of importance and mystery was placed on Snoke, not on a random Bounty Hunter, not on a side character. He was the big bad, of a power where people often feel "disturbances" when someone powerful is around. He also looks old and mangled...which lead to the Plagieus or even Emperor theories. It looks like he suffered greatly, which again, given the presence of someone like the Sith and Jedi, build mystery. We also have the rules of "balance" and if Kylo and Snoke exists then there must be another to Rey. Right?

If he is THAT old then he throws a wrench into the whole balance theme of the OT, that's a problem. And if we are building "new rules" to the Universe, then you have to account for the old rules.

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Nailed it.

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it doesn't matter. he is only there to push Ren's arc. Literally the only reason he exists.

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Yeah that's the entire problem with TLJ. Nothing in the movie matters. It's all just random nonsense created without explanation in order to push a plot along without any attention paid to the actual universe the movie is operating in, but, because the movie is cannon in that universe it destroys that universe in the process.

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You do if you are connecting everything to that.

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See I just disagree. The established rules are already there. you don't need to retread them. A lot of stuff is done the way it is BECAUSE the rules were already established. We don't need to go back and rehash more stuff that has been done in the past 6 films. You don't much have room for that in a 2 hour movie.

You have the rules, the lore, established. You can expand if need be in other media if you want. You don't have to do it in the mainline movie. Don't you get that?