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re: XFL Week 3: Guardians 9 vs Battlehawks 26----- KA-KAW

Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:48 pm to
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:48 pm to
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You’re either being willfully ignorant or you’re upset / in denial about college football players leaving early to get paid elsewhere.


Or I understand a couple realities

1.) the star players you speak about are already getting paid. Likely more than the XFL is offering

2.) the XFL has light years to go to offer the level of facilities offered by big time programs

3.) the XFL would run out of cash real quick if they kept trying to make bets on mostly unproven 18 year olds

4.) the league could still fold any minute and given how disastrous the AAF folding was, including withholding the players rights to play professional football anywhere else, a big time player would be foolish to take that risk over the much smaller risk of a career ending injury in college for maybe 50k


My argument isn’t emotional at all. I’m all for players getting paid as quickly as they can when it makes sense. The logistics of the XFL plucking NCAA talent without off field issues is just not feasible
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 3:50 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
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I’ve never seen a football team with as many alpha males as this St. Louis BattleHawks team. Going to be hard for a league full of cucks and soyboys to beat them.


You truly are one of my favorite posters. We should grab a beer and talk about how alpha we are
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
Longest Field Goal in XFL History!
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10183 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:49 pm to
What a fricking leg!!
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:50 pm to
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This lack of awareness is why the rams left

Don’t make fun of my bro. You beta pos
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24919 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:50 pm to
This a mauling

58 yarder
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:51 pm to
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DC and Houston both started season with two games at home, should be fun to see how they do on the road.


Houston just won on the road yesterday my dude.

DC got a chance to do the same tonight.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 3:54 pm to
This game is getting ugly now for NY.
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6529 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:02 pm to
DC/LSU should be fine. Houston struggled against the diapers in Tampa
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10183 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:02 pm to
I do like that Stockton RB for the Guardians. I'd like the Battlehawks acquire that kid for the slot someday. Dude is quick.
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:03 pm to
A 300 yd passing day and 34 points on the board isn’t exactly a struggle, baw.

Also, injuries on defense didn’t help. Still pulled a dub on the road.

Come at me when we ACTUALLY struggle.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 4:06 pm
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10138 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

1.) the star players you speak about are already getting paid. Likely more than the XFL is offering

2.) the XFL has light years to go to offer the level of facilities offered by big time programs

3.) the XFL would run out of cash real quick if they kept trying to make bets on mostly unproven 18 year olds

4.) the league could still fold any minute and given how disastrous the AAF folding was, including withholding the players rights to play professional football anywhere else, a big time player would be foolish to take that risk over the much smaller risk of a career ending injury in college for maybe 50k


1.) Paying players in college is against NCAA rules.

2.) Players aren’t going to give a shite about how fancy a locker room is if they’re getting paid and they’re only there for 3 months.

3.) Who said anything about the XFL making bets on unproven 18 year olds? No one except you. We’re talking about players leaving college a year or two early to get paid in the XFL. That would make them more like 20 years old with a couple of proven college years.

4.) The XFL will NOT “fold at any minute” because McMahon has already invested enough money for three years. By then, they will get a new TV deal because the ratings have been solid. They have proven there is a demand for a 3 month league that isn’t the NFL.

They also have stated that they will not withhold players rights to play elsewhere once their one season contracts are up. Wrong yet again. You do realize that just because the AAF did a bunch of stupid shite doesn’t mean the XFL is as well?

and finally, “it would be foolish for a player to risk injury for $55k”. As if that’s the salary they would get. That number is strictly the average RIGHT NOW... and many players are making well into the six figures with QB’s getting up to $500k... for 3 months of work.
going forward... the money will do nothing but increase as well. Not to mention the endorsement deals they could make off the field.


No one is saying that it will be some mass exodus of college players leaving for the XFL in their final year of eligibility, but there absolutely will be many who do. To say that it won’t happen at all is just wrong.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:12 pm to
The Guardians team is filled with egos. Not doing what they are asked and thinking they are smarter and better than the coaches.

Amazing what happens when you shut up and do your job. Great drive in progress right now. Hope they can at least make this interesting.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112335 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:14 pm to
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1.) Paying players in college is against NCAA rules.


Smoking weed is against the law but I like to partake

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2.) Players aren’t going to give a shite about how fancy a locker room is if they’re getting paid and they’re only there for 3 months.


You still have to wait 3 years to enter the draft. You’re going to turn down top notch nutrition and training and exposure for entry level money? What do you do for the other 9 months besides be forgotten about by NFL scouts

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3.) Who said anything about the XFL making bets on unproven 18 year olds? No one except you. We’re talking about players leaving college a year or two early to get paid in the XFL. That would make them more like 20 years old with a couple of proven college years.


The NFL takes the most developed group of players and most of them flame out. They have he infrastructure and money to be able to afford that cost of doing business

If the XFL is chasing these top talents and paying top dollar, with similar strike out rates they’ll burn through money real quick

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4.) The XFL will NOT “fold at any minute” because McMahon has already invested enough money for three years. By then, they will get a new TV deal because the ratings have been solid. They have proven there is a demand for a 3 month league that isn’t the NFL.


Seems like a very bold claim to make after 2.5 weeks.


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They also have stated that they will not withhold players rights to play elsewhere once their one season contracts are up. Wrong yet again. You do realize that just because the AAF did a bunch of stupid shite doesn’t mean the XFL is as well?


Leagues act a little different when they are running Vs when they are in bankruptcy court

And yeah if I’m a player looking to make this change, I would probably see what happened in other start up leagues

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and finally, “it would be foolish for a player to risk injury for $55k”. As if that’s the salary they would get. That number is strictly the average RIGHT NOW... and many players are making well into the six figures with QB’s getting up to $500k... for 3 months of work.


Circle back to my posts about paying top dollar for unproven 18-20 year olds that in the best case scenario will leave your league in 2 seasons

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No one is saying that it will be some mass exodus of college players leaving for the XFL in their final year of eligibility, but there absolutely will be many who do. To say that it won’t happen at all is just ignorance.


I’ll take that bet
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:19 pm to
Completely shut em down!
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 4:20 pm
Posted by DByrd2
Fredericksburg, VA
Member since Jun 2008
8963 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:20 pm to
Lol @ Guardians OC

Terrible RZ series. 8 plays inside the ten and you pass 6 times AFTER RUNNING THE BALL WELL all drive.

Stupid.
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
10138 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:21 pm to
It’s crystal clear it bothers you that some players will leave college early to get paid in the XFL. You can say it doesn’t bother you, but your staunch defense of players staying on your precious college team shows your hand.

and that’s fine. Not everyone is going to agree on the matter. With that said, that doesn’t change the FACT and REALITY that many players will elect to get paid in the XFL on their final year of NFL eligibility instead of risking injury playing for free in college.

Also... you’re still hung up on the idea that it’s only going to be “unproven 18 year olds”. No one has ever said that. Again... we’re talking about players who have already played in college, who are going to the NFL regardless, and will choose to play their final year of eligibility in the XFL making money.
This post was edited on 2/23/20 at 4:24 pm
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40255 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:25 pm to
The XFL Draft should be real interesting next season!
Posted by RamboMizzou
Springfield
Member since Jan 2014
10183 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:26 pm to
I like Williams better than Mcgloin. But the oline for the Guardians are getting their arse handed to them by the Hawks.
Posted by HeLeakin
Member since May 2014
3313 posts
Posted on 2/23/20 at 4:27 pm to
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