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re: Winston thoughts?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:55 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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I don't know if Winston is going to have a great career, good career, bad career or somewhere in between, but making that determination based on one game is silly.
who would have thought case keenum could rustle so many jimmy's.
my comment wasnt saying Winston would suck forever or that his rookie year has been as bad as he played last night.
It was more along the lines of saying that he is indeed capable of playing as bad as he did last night. in a thread that was: GASP!!!!, started last night
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:55 am to ssgtiger
quote:
Really so comparing Winston to Elway is not stupid?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:55 am to TigerBait1127
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And I added some more
You can't compare things from 10 years ago to today. The rules have changed to drastically favor the QB. So stats lie.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:56 am to Lester Earl
quote:I just responded to a dumb comment. You can interpret that how you see fit.
who would have thought case keenum could rustle so many jimmy's.
ETA:
quote:Does saying it last night make it less dumb?
in a thread that was: GASP!!!!, started last night
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:59 am to agregime1
I think he's had a solid rookie season considering how shitty the BUCS OLINE is. They need to focus on improving the OLINE and possibly find a replacement for Jackson & Austin Jenkins.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:00 am to ssgtiger
So, by your logic in this thread, you really can't compare them to any QBs:
1) have to be elite
2) can't be from 10 years ago
3) can't be over 21, even if there stats are better than the older players
Who fits your criteria? It takes years to become elite, and you said he showed potential and ability, yet still can't ever be a pro bowler
And sure you can compare them, just need to do it within context for the era. Manning led the NFL in interceptions as a rookie.
1) have to be elite
2) can't be from 10 years ago
3) can't be over 21, even if there stats are better than the older players
Who fits your criteria? It takes years to become elite, and you said he showed potential and ability, yet still can't ever be a pro bowler
And sure you can compare them, just need to do it within context for the era. Manning led the NFL in interceptions as a rookie.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:02 am to TigerBait1127
Why no RGIII?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:03 am to ssgtiger
quote:
Why no RGIII?
Because I'm not retarded enough to think he's an elite QB?
He was running a 1 read offense his rookie year and blew out his knee.
Def the same thing
You realize that showing ability and POTENTIAL doesn't actually mean that they will 100% live up to it
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 11:06 am
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:04 am to ssgtiger
quote:not 21!!!!
Why no RGIII?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:05 am to StrongBackWeakMind
quote:
Does saying it last night make it less dumb?
Does it make it less true?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:06 am to shel311
quote:
not 21!!!!
That didnt seem to matter for every other QB listed?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:06 am to ssgtiger
quote:Make what less true?
Does it make it less true?
ETA: Hold up, do you think I'm arguing whether or not Keenum outplayed Winston?
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:06 am to ssgtiger
quote:
Does it make it less true?
Brees was outplayed by Mariota. Winston has too
Must mean he's gonna be elite
Derp
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:10 am to TigerBait1127
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3) can't be over 21, even if there stats are better than the older players
I wasn't the one who said they had to be 21
quote:
can't be from 10 years ago
Can't compare those stats.
By your logic Russell Wilson is the second best QB of all time.
quote:
he showed potential and ability, yet still can't ever be a pro bowler
Learn reading comprehension. I said nothing that they have done so far has shown me they will ever pro bowlers. I didn't say that they absolutely never will be.
quote:
ure you can compare them, just need to do it within context for the era. Manning led the NFL in interceptions as a rookie.
Ok I give up. You are right Winston is better than Manning.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:11 am to TigerBait1127
quote:
Brees was outplayed by Mariota. Winston has too
Brees in his current state is far from elite.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:13 am to ssgtiger
quote:
Brees in his current state is far from elite.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:13 am to TigerBait1127
Ok well thats all I need to know about you. You obviously don't have a clue if you think 2015 Brees is Elite.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:14 am to ssgtiger
quote:
wasn't the one who said they had to be 21
No, you were the one who tried to twist the meaning
quote:
Can't compare those stats.
By your logic Russell Wilson is the second best QB of all time.
How so? Did you read what I even said?
quote:
Learn reading comprehension. I said nothing that they have done so far has shown me they will ever pro bowlers. I didn't say that they absolutely never will be.
learn simple logic quote:
Ok I give up. You are right Winston is better than Manning
where did I say that? Learn reading comprehension
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:15 am to ssgtiger
quote:
Ok well thats all I need to know about you. You obviously don't have a clue if you think 2015 Brees is Elite.
Well that can be debated. Anyone who's watched the saints this year knows he still has it, but we have major oline and receiver issued
But that isn't what you said. You said "far from elite". And despite his injury, he's:
3rd in YPG (5th best of his career)
8th in Passer Rating
3rd in completion %
And at the time of the Titans game, he was playing out of his mind
Learn reading comprehension
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/18/15 at 11:22 am to TigerBait1127
quote:Might as well take him out back with the 12ga.
But that isn't what you said. You said "far from elite". And despite his injury, he's:
3rd in YPG (5th best of his career)
8th in Passer Rating
3rd in completion %
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