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re: Winston thoughts?

Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:43 am to
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:43 am to
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The season is not over yet. Plus Luck lead a team that was 2-15 to the playoffs as a rookie. Winston not so much.

Can the Bucs get in if they win out?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:44 am to
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just because that is what you want it to mean doenst mean that is what it means
It shows your logic flaw. Using stats solely for young QBs like this doesn't always work, hence JaMarcus vs Elway.

It's obviously not as pronounced with Winston vs Glennon, I'd assume you're smart enough to know I'm not saying that... But just watching the 2, if you honestly "don't get it" that's pretty shocking for me coming from you, it's rather obvious the potential difference between the 2. Hell, were you saying Glennon had the upside of Matt Ryan? That's my point.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:45 am to
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This doesn't make any sense.


Im sorry not my fault you are to dumb to comprehend.

quote:

He may be


Hell I may be too, but it isn't likely
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290653 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:45 am to
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Winston has a higher QB rating, a higher TD%, lower INT%, and a higher YPA than Andrew Luck did on his rookie year.



so did Mike Glennon
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:45 am to
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Peyton got outplayed by Danny HOF Wuerffel his rookie season...
Thanks for not being as lazy as me, that's why I called out that comments as absurd.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:46 am to
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would like some sort of proof showing how he is better than any 21 year old QB eve


Mariota:

62.4%; 7.65 average; 19/10 TD/Int
91.9 Rating

Winston:

58.4%, 7.46 average; 20/12
85.4 Rating

Luck:
54.1%, 6.98 average; 23/18
76.5 Rating

P. Manning (older)
56.7%, 6.50 avg; 26/28
71.2

Brees (older)
60.8%; 6.24 avg; 17/16
76.9
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 10:49 am
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:46 am to
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Using stats solely for young QBs like this doesn't always work,


That is what all the Winston fans are doing.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:46 am to
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so did Mike Glennon

You keep bringing him up but laugh at JaMarcus vs Elway?

That's funny.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:47 am to
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That is what all the Winston fans are doing
I'm not a Winston fan.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:47 am to
I don't know if Winston is going to have a great career, good career, bad career or somewhere in between, but making that determination based on one game is silly.
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:47 am to
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Mariota:

62.4%; 7.65 average; 19/10 TD/Int
91.9 Rating

Winston:

58.4%, 7.46 average; 20/12
85.4 Rating

Luck:
54.1%, 6.98 average; 23/18
76.5 Rating


Mariota nor Luck were/are 21 at that time.

Just pointing out his stupid logic.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:48 am to
Uhh weren't they older?
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:48 am to
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I don't know if Winston is going to have a great career, good career, bad career or somewhere in between, but making that determination based on one game is silly.


Exactly
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:49 am to
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Uhh weren't they older?


Yes. Just making a point that saying he was better than any "21" year old QB is dumb and irrelevant.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:49 am to
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Mariota nor Luck were/are 21 at that time.

Just pointing out his stupid logic.


You're right, they were actually older...So they should be more developed.

And I added some more

He isn't the one with the stupid logic here
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 10:51 am
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290653 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:50 am to
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You keep bringing him up but laugh at JaMarcus vs Elway?



you're going to have to expound a little more. Russell started 1 game as a rookie. Elway started 11. I dont know what you're trying to say. Put some effort here shel



Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:50 am to
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I'm not a Winston fan.


You just like how his nuts taste.
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:51 am to
I was referring to LE's Case Keenum comment.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112808 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:52 am to
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Yes. Just making a point that saying he was better than any "21" year old QB is dumb and irrelevant.
I mean, I can't... What?
Good lord
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 12/18/15 at 10:52 am to
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He isn't the one with the stupid logic here


Really so comparing Winston to Elway is not stupid?
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