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re: Will Vince Young get a Suspension?
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:26 pm to RaginCajunsULL
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:26 pm to RaginCajunsULL
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Sorry but he killed someone. The only difference would of been the years he would of spent in prison.
I think most people would find a big difference in character btw one person who intentionally took the life of another and someone whose reckless disregard for the law resulted in the loss of another's life.
Tends to be the reason why we have a manslaughter charge instead of just charging everyone with murder.
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Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:26 pm to The Ramp
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u mean the other rape case that never made it to court either?
no
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:27 pm to tigerguy121
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just like it is fact that Stallworth was charged with Manslaughter not Murder.
and served 24 days in jail. just because he has money.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:30 pm to RaginCajunsULL
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and served 24 days in jail. just because he has money.
Would the mans family have been better off with the money and Stallworth doing 30 days, or Stallworth doing 5 years and no money?
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:31 pm to tigerguy121
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Would the mans family have been better off with the money and Stallworth doing 30 days, or Stallworth doing 5 years and no money?
He would of done 15+ years.
must of been a low life family to accept $ in change of a love ones life.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:34 pm to tigerguy121
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Why does it upset you that people think Ben did that shite? Should try to not worry about the court of public opinion, you can't change it.
Why does it upset you that people think he's innocent? It's a freaking message board! People express their opinions.That's how it works.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:36 pm to RaginCajunsULL
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He would of done 15+ years.
max in florida for DUI mansluaghter is 15 years.
Hard to believe that someone with no priors, and as far as I remember not even one previous DUI conviction would have gotten the maximum, regardless of how much money they had.
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must of been a low life family to accept $ in change of a love ones life.
or a poor family with a widow who didn't know how she was going to feed her children?
Not like they paid Donte to kill the man.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 12:41 pm to Ryno_Kill
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Why does it upset you that people think he's innocent?
it doesn't I expressed my opinion, you and the other guy are the ones proclaiming WERE YOU THERE?!?!?
and talking about cliches like "in the eyes of the law"
This post was edited on 6/15/10 at 12:42 pm
Posted on 6/15/10 at 4:09 pm to tigerguy121
Vince Young has done all the right things after the fight. He apologized to his teammates and to the Titans fans. He admitted what he did was wrong. He doesn't deserve a suspension.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 4:36 pm to RedHawk
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Vince Young has done all the right things after the fight. He apologized to his teammates and to the Titans fans. He admitted what he did was wrong. He doesn't deserve a suspension.
so as long as you "apologize" you shouldn't be punished?
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:48 pm to RaginCajunsULL
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so as long as you "apologize" you shouldn't be punished?
Should have said it better in my first post. Vince seems to be owning up to what he did. He is accepting full responsibility. He isn't a repeat trouble maker with the law and from all accounts is a good citizen. I say this is his get out of jail free card. If he does something like this again, then a suspension is warranted.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 5:50 pm to RaginCajunsULL
Fellas, we haven't HEARD what happened....we SAW what happened.....I have a feeling once we hear what was said, this whole deal will be a non-issue....I really doubt what we saw made Vince go off like he did.....Dude said something out of pocket......
Posted on 6/15/10 at 6:22 pm to The Ramp
Drunk people can't give their consent. Ben got off, plain and simple.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 7:26 pm to tigerguy121
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I think most people would find a big difference in character btw one person who intentionally took the life of another and someone whose reckless disregard for the law resulted in the loss of another's life.
I think you're right - but I also think we are way too cavalier about drinking and driving. It can be fairly argued that drinking and driving is maybe the most serious offense that the US legal system gives people way too much of a free pass on
Because people did make a decision to drive when they were impaired (I feel this way for people that had more than 1-2 beers anway) - guys who have 8 or 10 and then step behind the wheel are really behaving incredibly and intentionally recklessly in a way that puts other people's lives at risk
Posted on 6/15/10 at 7:33 pm to molsusports
Anyway, in a small way this demonstrates IMO what kind of can of worms Goddell opened up with the Big Ben case.
If he had just stuck with suspending players who were convicted of serious crimes or who admitted fault with serious crimes then he'd have a NFL policy where the legal system had to sort through the hardest judgments for him. Now he's stuck making calls where there won't be a clear cut right answer about to do.
If he had just stuck with suspending players who were convicted of serious crimes or who admitted fault with serious crimes then he'd have a NFL policy where the legal system had to sort through the hardest judgments for him. Now he's stuck making calls where there won't be a clear cut right answer about to do.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 8:17 pm to The Gooch
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Fellas, we haven't HEARD what happened....we SAW what happened.....I have a feeling once we hear what was said, this whole deal will be a non-issue....I really doubt what we saw made Vince go off like he did.....Dude said something out of pocket......
The guy disrespected Vince by dissing UT.lol. Come on now you can't diss a brothas school and expect to walk away. Vince had to represent in front of his boys.
In other words another case of "When keepin it real goes wrong."
Posted on 6/15/10 at 8:27 pm to molsusports
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It can be fairly argued that drinking and driving is maybe the most serious offense that the US legal system gives people way too much of a free pass on
It could be argued that way only if the system gave a free pass which it doesn't
Posted on 6/15/10 at 8:30 pm to tigerguy121
lots of people get away with essentially no punishment after they drink and drive
Posted on 6/15/10 at 8:34 pm to molsusports
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hen he'd have a NFL policy where the legal system had to sort through the hardest judgments for him
which isn't any policy at all. It's the legal process.
The legal system is not concerned with actions that may be detrimental to the league's image, which is more what the commish is concerned with.
Sitting back and letting the legal system protect the league's image didn't work.
Jones, Henry, etc were all subject to multiple investigations, trials, convictions, but were still legally able to play football. shite Jones didn't get his first felony conviction till AFTER being suspended by the league. Something had to be done, and he did it.
Goodell opened the "can of worms" the day he got his conduct policy passed.
Posted on 6/15/10 at 8:35 pm to molsusports
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ots of people get away with essentially no punishment after they drink and drive
not being caught by the police, is not the same as getting a free pass
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