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re: Will Luke Heimlich get drafted?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:22 pm to TH03
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:22 pm to TH03
quote:Please explain how me answering a question shows which way I am leaning
Shocker, 87 being obtuse and stubborn.
You are the one that is so damn biased in here you are throwing up irony all over the thread
Please th03, from now on, let me know when I can answer a question about this case. I dont want to look biased
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:24 pm
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:30 pm to lsupride87
Just so I have you on record, you're cool with changing your tune on a subject after you've had time to think about it, even after being very assertive of your original opinion?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:36 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
Just so I have you on record, you're cool with changing your tune on a subject after you've had time to think about it, even after being very assertive of your original opinion?
Honestly it appears he may be easily influenced by news stories. We're still really only hearing one side of this story from Heimlich. I don't think him denying it publicly now should really change anyone's perception on what did or didn't happen. What we know is the victim and her family say it happened, Heimlich and his family deny it happened, Heimlich took a guilty plea, and now Heilich is trying to do damage control leading up the the draft. Nothing that has come out now is really any different, only Heimlich has had a year to prepare for the 2018 draft and only had a matter of weeks to prepare when this story broke last year. I'm not saying it's bad to be willing to change an opinion if more information is released, but nothing new really has come out. Heimlich's position has been denial since day 1 and was part of the story last year when it broke. Only difference now is he is stating it publicly.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:38 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Yes absolutely
Just so I have you on record, you're cool with changing your tune on a subject after you've had time to think about it, even after being very assertive of your original opinion?
I will also admit I changed my opinion and how I felt originally was misguided
Can you do the same?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:41 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:This feels like a trap being set for Lnch to bring up a time Pride may have called him out for doing the thing Lnch quoted here.
Just so I have you on record, you're cool with changing your tune on a subject after you've had time to think about it, even after being very assertive of your original opinion?
Best guess
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:42 pm to lsufball19
quote:No, not really.
Honestly it appears he may be easily influenced by news stories.
But thank you for your analysis Dr. Lsufball19
quote:Well, I dont think there is much to hear from the other side besides the testimony itself (which is powerful in itself), unless there is physical evidence presented that was not made known to use yet, or if there are other witnesses not yet made know to us
We're still really only hearing one side of this story from Heimlich.
quote:And this is what I did not know. When the story was first presented, I incorrectly assumed Heimlich had admitted guilt entirely, not just in a court setting. I was also led incorrectly by the media he broke part of his probation, which he in fact did not.
Heimlich's position has been denial since day 1. Only difference now is he is stating it publicly.
I am fully capable of understanding when you hear a defense side of the argument, or prosecutions, it will be one sided. I understand people can lie and be very persuasive.
I simply think this case is not nearly as cut and dry as when first presented like I myself made it out to be. No more no less
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:44 pm to shel311
quote:It is, but he failed as I am 100% admitting I have changed my opinion based on my misguided takes earlier
This feels like a trap being set for Lnch to bring up a time Pride may have called him out for doing the thing Lnch quoted here.
Best guess
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:44 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Can you do the same?
Last time I tried, you were a bitch about it with months old screen caps. Glad to see you've matured.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:46 pm to lsupride87
Of course you see think it's different when you do it. You quickly becoming one of the most insufferable people here. You used to be funny.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:46 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Excuse me?
Last time I tried
You admitted you changed your mind and you were misguided before?
Or did you keep doubling down you were talking of something different and your opinion had not changed?
I can screen cap again.......
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:47 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:thanks
You used to be funny.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
here you go lnch
Here is me actually giving you props for admitting your interpretation changed.
the argument was over at this point
until, one page later you start denying you interpretation changed and you start bullshitting again
And regardless, I view changing an opinion on a math problem different than changing an opinion on a legal proceeding where more information comes out.
But I am sure you will disagree
Here is me actually giving you props for admitting your interpretation changed.
the argument was over at this point
until, one page later you start denying you interpretation changed and you start bullshitting again
And regardless, I view changing an opinion on a math problem different than changing an opinion on a legal proceeding where more information comes out.
But I am sure you will disagree
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:50 pm to lsupride87
You really have become pathetic.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:51 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:Please explain
You really have become pathetic.
You seem angry you didnt get your boom and I proved you are lying
shel, would you like to officiate?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:56 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Well, I dont think there is much to hear from the other side besides the testimony itself (which is powerful in itself)
well, that testimony is sealed, so we aren't privileged to that information. and that also pertains to physical evidence as well. All the public knows is that he pled guilty and what has been provided by the parties out of court. The only reason the public is aware of anything is because of the VOP when Heimlich didn't update his address. But overall, the stories have never changed. It's a closed case so no new evidence is going to be uncovered. So, at the end of the day, with the records sealed, all the public can rely on is a "he said she said" accounting of what did or didn't happen. What we do have is a guilty plea. Heimlich denying it then and now shouldn't, IMO, sway your opinion one way or the other.
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No, not really. But thank you for your analysis Dr. Lsufball19
I said this because you were all over him last year when the story broke and now that he has come out and made a statement you have pulled a complete 180 when nothing in the story has really changed.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 1:57 pm to lsufball19
It def sways my opinion(or at least makes it more difficult to have one) if I originally thought he admitted guilt entirely correct?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:17 pm to lsupride87
If you based your entire opinion originally off of incomplete information available, sure. The only thing I find odd is by your posts now. It seems as if you are trying to make an argument to discredit the victim having actually been a victim. Your argument just appears to be very slanted in one direction. If that is not your intention, I apologize
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:19 pm to lsupride87
quote:
You are the one that is so damn biased in here you are throwing up irony all over the thread
And how exactly have I made an opinion on either side? Pointing out that you've completely flipped just because you felt bad about the other thread doesn't count.
quote:
Please th03, from now on, let me know when I can answer a question about this case. I dont want to look biased
Obtuse as frick.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:39 pm to lsufball19
quote:My intention was not in anyway to make people believe the victim was lying
It seems as if you are trying to make an argument to discredit the victim having actually been a victim. Your argument just appears to be very slanted in one direction. If that is not your intention, I apologize
My intention was to point out that with the mother being divorced from the father, and losing custody of her child, there is at least a potential motive for some funny business here. Purely circumstantial though I understand
That is all
Posted on 5/9/18 at 2:40 pm to lsupride87
Are you this extreme in real life?
It's like A to Z on this topic.
It's like A to Z on this topic.
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