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Will Luke Heimlich get drafted?

Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:43 am
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:43 am
11-1
3.01 ERA
80.2 IP
101 Ks
17 BB
.234 OBA
1 molestation conviction

NY Times

quote:

In a series of interviews with The New York Times this weekend, Heimlich flatly denied committing the crime he had admitted to, saying he pleaded guilty to quickly dispense with the case and for the sake of family relations.

“Nothing ever happened,” he said, when asked for specifics about what might have occurred between him and his niece.


Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:47 am to
He's definitely trying to do some damage control after going undrafted last year
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:49 am to
I will say there is more to the story than simply reported at first.


I am somewhat embarrassed how pitchforky I was last year


Shame on me
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:49 am to
Well that bombshell being dropped right before the draft last year was killer.

He's maintaining his innocence but the victim's mom seems convinced that he's a piece of shite.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:50 am to
What all is the "more to this story"?

Besides his own denial of it happening
Posted by Hamma1122
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:51 am to
No
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:51 am to
quote:

I will say there is more to the story than simply reported at first.

like?
Posted by SoFunnyItsNot
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:51 am to
Don't quote me but I believe it had something to do with it being better for him to plead guilty at his age. or the safer option
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:52 am to
Yeah, plea deals are usually better in regards to minimizing punishment. I don't doubt at all that he was pressured in to taking it. However, that doesn't convince me that he's innocent.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:53 am to
quote:

What all is the "more to this story"?

The fact his parents beleive he didnt do it, and they told him to plead guilty at the request of his lawyer because of how impossible it is to beat a case like this (it is virtually impossible because the child cant be cross examined.)

I always thought by the way it was reported he truly admitted guilt and everyone accepted it. That is how the media made it seem


I had no clue he maintained his innocence to today, through all his counseling he maintained he didnt do it, and his parents, also the girls grandparents, maintain he didnt do it and they listend to their lawyers



And the fact the case was brought about because the ex wife of Heimlichs brother was the one that pushed it
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:54 am
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:56 am to
quote:

Don't quote me but I believe it had something to do with it being better for him to plead guilty at his age. or the safer option


His story is that he pled guilty to avoid serving time in juvenile detention. I believe he was looking at 40 weeks iirc, which is honestly amazing that's all he would have had to serve considering the charges.
Posted by hendersonshands
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:57 am to
I just don't know how a kid would make this up:

quote:

According to court records, the newspaper said, she told investigators that she was in Heimlich’s bedroom at his home south of Seattle when he pulled her underwear down and “touched her on both the inside and outside.” The Oregonian quoted the documents as saying, “She told him to stop, but he wouldn’t.”
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

According to court records, the newspaper said, she told investigators that she was in Heimlich’s bedroom at his home south of Seattle when he pulled her underwear down and “touched her on both the inside and outside.” The Oregonian quoted the documents as saying, “She told him to stop, but he wouldn’t.”
How old was she?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
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I just don't know how a kid would make this up:

Kids have been coached by parents many times to lie like this. It happens



I am not saying I am convinced he is innocent, I am saying this is not cut and dry like first reported.....
Posted by Master of Sinanju
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

The girl told investigators that inside Heimlich’s bedroom, he pulled down her underwear and “touched her on both the inside and outside of the spot she uses to go to the bathroom,” according to court records.

“She said that she told him to stop, but he wouldn’t,” the documents state, and that “it hurt” when he touched her.




Tough to live that down.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
quote:

it is virtually impossible because the child cant be cross examined

Unless Oregon has some weird laws as it pertains to juveniles, this is not true
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:58 am to
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How old was she?
I think around 5 or 6?


Not positive though
Posted by lsufball19
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:59 am to
quote:

because the ex wife of Heimlichs brother was the one that pushed it

you mean the child's mother
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I think around 5 or 6?


Not positive though
I doubt it but was there ever any motive for why the kid(mainly parents coaching like you said) would have incentive to make this up and derail the guy's life?

I don't recall the details on this one at all.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 11:02 am to
quote:

I doubt it but was there ever any motive for why the kid(mainly parents coaching like you said) would have incentive to make this up and derail the guy's life?

Ex wife of his brother who according to the family was an awful woman

and the Heimlichs had full custody.....


It is he said she said on both sides
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 11:03 am
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