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re: Why wouldn't every team want Michael Vick
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:39 pm to bayou2003
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:39 pm to bayou2003
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Sometimes I wonder if Vick tortured or shot some black guys if there would be as much outrage.lol. shite I'm serious about that.lol
Leonard Little killed a human being and there was much less outrage when he got his second DUI...
There was NO outrage when PacMan was signed...
And let's not forget the guys who hit their wives and girlfriends, or a guy like Kobe who raped a woman...
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 1:40 pm
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Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:40 pm to Sophandros
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You made a general statement that Blacks don't value fatherhood, which is false.
Lower income people tend to have more broken homes than middle and upper income people, yet you focused only on Black people. Middle class Blacks tend to have both parents raising the children, just as middle class whites do.
So your focus on race is tragically flawed.
But that's OK. It's better to know where people like you are rather than the ones who go behind your back...
I guess I better inform my best friend and roommate who is black, that I am racist. I am not sure how he will take it. Look at the stats of fatherless black kids and fatherless white kids and you tell me which is higher.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:41 pm to Sophandros
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or a guy like Kobe who raped a woman
wow, I thought he was found innocent. Pick a side dude
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:56 pm to HeadyMurphey
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I guess I better inform my best friend and roommate who is black, that I am racist.
First defense of a racist is the "I'm not racist, I have a Black friend!" rebuttal.
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Look at the stats of fatherless black kids and fatherless white kids and you tell me which is higher.
Break it down into socio-economic status and get back to me.
The focus should be on economics and social conditions, not skin color.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:58 pm to HeadyMurphey
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wow, I thought he was found innocent. Pick a side dude
1) You're not found innocent in court,
2) The case didn't go to trial because he and his legal team intimidated and bribed the girl to settle,
3) There is no side to pick with regards to Kobe the rapist. Kobe's raping that girl had nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with money, privilege, and power.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:59 pm to Sophandros
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Break it down into socio-economic status and get back to me.
The focus should be on economics and social conditions, not skin color.
I'm black and I don't know of any fatherless black kids from families that make $35,000+ and that's low for a family if you ask me.lol. Now if the family or mom is making under $20,000/yr I can't even count on my hand the number of fatherless black kids.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 1:59 pm to Sophandros
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Break it down into socio-economic status and get back to me.
You can break it down however you want, I don't give a shite. What I posted was a fact. If you have supporting facts to break it down further, good for you, that does not make my fact any less true.
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Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:03 pm to Sophandros
Sophandros, money, your doing a good job, but I think Leonard killed 2 people or some shite. 
This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:04 pm to Sophandros
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1) You're not found innocent in court,
2) The case didn't go to trial because he and his legal team intimidated and bribed the girl to settle,
Your opinion
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3) There is no side to pick with regards to Kobe the rapist. Kobe's raping that girl had nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with money, privilege, and power.
How can you prove this even happened?
Well looks like you are in the same boat as me. I cannot forgive a dog killer and you can't forgive an alleged rapist.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:05 pm to HeadyMurphey
quote:no, just expose your true self to him would suffice, I like the my best friend is black coverup.
I guess I better inform my best friend and roommate who is black,
oh, and Kobe got off because of his celebrity dude, you know that. This post was edited on 5/27/09 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:06 pm to Sophandros
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Break it down into socio-economic status and get back to me.
Let's do socioeconomic factors then:
By mere statistics adn numbers, there should be more whites than blacks that are economically disadvantaged. Right? I guarantee you there are more whites in poverty than blacks due to sheer demographics and numbers.
However, the amount of single parent homes and crime is both higher in black communities than whites despite the lesser sample size. How is this? Socio-economic does have a factor, but it isn't the only force at work here.
But of course you don't understand logic as you think free speech should have consequences if it happens to offend you.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:08 pm to Sophandros
Leanard Little should have been placed "Under the Jail" IMO. You don't know that VIck is so great now.......taking that amount of time off is going to be detrimental to a pro player. If I'm someone like the Vikings, I'd probably let him in camp to find out though. I doubt that no one takes a flyer on him.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:08 pm to tubucoco
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no, just expose your true self to him would suffice, I like the my best friend is black coverup.
No coverup here, just point me to my racist remark and I will make sure he sees it.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:10 pm to Moustache
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Moustache
Thanks, I didn't feel like wasting my time, case they will just come up with somethign else.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:11 pm to HeadyMurphey
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just point me to my racist remark and I will make sure he sees it.
that's the thing. If you point out an inconvenient or less than flattering truth/fact, then you're racist.
If a black person says something along the lines of, "Aggregately, blacks are more athletic than whites," I'll agree adn not cry racism b/c it is fact.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:11 pm to Moustache
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However, the amount of single parent homes and crime is both higher in black communities than whites despite the lesser sample size. How is this? Socio-economic does have a factor, but it isn't the only force at work here.
It's the primary force at work here, because it also drives other factors like education and job opportunities.
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But of course you don't understand logic as you think free speech should have consequences if it happens to offend you.
Free speech always has consequences, no matter who says it and no matter who it offends (or doesn't offend).
In this case, you're ignoring blatant facts in order to support your racist beliefs.
I'll give it to you that you're honest with yourself, however.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:13 pm to Moustache
The racist remark was "Blacks don't care about fatherhood". Not only is that remark racist, it is also patently false.
Actually, it is not a fact. The average Black person and average white person are the same athletically. When you're dealing with outliers from CERTAIN POPULATIONS OF BLACKS AND WHITES, you'll see a stark difference.
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If a black person says something along the lines of, "Aggregately, blacks are more athletic than whites," I'll agree adn not cry racism b/c it is fact.
Actually, it is not a fact. The average Black person and average white person are the same athletically. When you're dealing with outliers from CERTAIN POPULATIONS OF BLACKS AND WHITES, you'll see a stark difference.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:13 pm to Sophandros
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It's the primary force at work here, because it also drives other factors like education and job opportunities
Then how do you explain the statistics that have been in articles over and over again?
yes it is a HUGE force because poor whites have the same problems as poor blacks, but not near as much per capita.
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Free speech always has consequences, no matter who says it and no matter who it offends (or doesn't offend).
Then it isn't free speech. So, you're saying I'm free to say whatever I want, but I may be jailed for saying something. That's a consequence. That's not "free speech" by definition. I really hope you have a degree in math or something that doesn't require critical thought and debate.
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In this case, you're ignoring blatant facts in order to support your racist beliefs.
Damn, you sure are quick to throw the "r" word around. I ddin't say a single thing that wasn't supported by facts adn statistics.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:15 pm to Sophandros
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Blacks don't care about fatherhood
That alone is a racist statement. However, it seems a bit out of context of what he was trying to say and you know it.
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Actually, it is not a fact. The average Black person and average white person are the same athletically.
Studies upon studies about fast twitch muscle fibers and skeletal structure has proven this to be fact, sorry.
Posted on 5/27/09 at 2:16 pm to Moustache
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If a black person says something along the lines of, "Aggregately, blacks are more athletic than whites," I'll agree adn not cry racism b/c it is fact.
I know some whites that will disagree with you. Depends on how much a person trains in that particular sport, which sport it is, etc.
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