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re: Why don't the Bengals cut ties with Shemir Stewart and just sign Hendrickson to a deal?

Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:57 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 5:57 pm to
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AKA we don’t have confidence that he won’t do stupid shite BUT we want the money anyway lol

Or exactly what I said
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If they were honestly worried about the ambiguity then they could hash out the details with the team. But they don’t want that

You have no idea what is and isn’t being negotiated on that end. You just know what the issue is and that the issue hasn’t been resolved to date
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:06 pm to
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You don’t know that

So you believe everything they’ve said publicly up until now?
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:08 pm to
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You have no idea what is and isn’t being negotiated on that end. You just know what the issue is and that the issue hasn’t been resolved to date

They want it removed all together, which they’ve stated publicly. So no they don’t want to negotiate.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:08 pm to
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So you believe everything they’ve said publicly up until now?


No
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:09 pm to
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They want it removed all together, which they’ve stated publicly. So no they don’t want to negotiate.


You don’t know what the word negotiate means
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:12 pm to
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You don’t know what the word negotiate means

Lol

Did they not publicly state they wanted it removed?
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:13 pm to
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No

Ok good. Whew lol
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:14 pm to
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Not at all lol


Why not?
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:16 pm to
The article has one sentence from a bengals staffer saying he “believes” they’re the last team to implement that language

Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:18 pm to
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Why not?

Because common sense? You can’t take something extremely absurd and be like, “see THIS is the gotcha!!!”

Someone could argue that saying, “the sky is blue” could be detrimental to the team but that’s just ignorant lol

Again, why is it so hard for some of y’all to understand this?

They want to protect an investment lol
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71291 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:19 pm to
The Bengals owner said he doesn’t want to pay people to sit in jail. That certainly sounds fair. Seems like an easy remedy to structure the contract to a pro-rated reduction in his guaranteed money if he misses any team activities because he’s incarcerated.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37114 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:20 pm to
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Because common sense?


Making financial decisions in the millions assuming everyone is a rational actor seems pretty fool hearted to me
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Making financial decisions in the millions assuming everyone is a rational actor seems pretty fool hearted to me

Stewart and his camp certainly aren’t. That’s for sure lol

Neither is the guy who thinks “we played bad” is going to void the contract lol

This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 6:22 pm
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:25 pm to
Carl Pickens criticized Bruce Coslet, an objectively awful coach, and that’s why the bengals started putting this clause in contracts.

He didn’t get arrested or take steroids. He criticized the coach.

So again, why wouldn’t “we played and prepared like shite” be off limits?
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 6:26 pm
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37114 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:26 pm to
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Neither is the guy who thinks “we played bad” is going to void the contract lol


I dont “think” it would but I wouldn’t bet $17 million on it
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:27 pm to
The hilarious thing about the bengals putting in this clause because Carl Pickens talking shite about a bad coach is they actually did have a run on players getting arrested
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17911 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:49 pm to
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The article has one sentence from a bengals staffer saying he “believes” they’re the last team to implement that language


Why are you the way you are?

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The sticking point in the negotiations, Brown said, is a dispute over the language in Stewart's rookie contract pertaining to potential conduct detrimental to the team. In that scenario, it could void guaranteed money owed to Stewart, which is a clause the Bengals added recently to mirror other teams around the league.


From another article:

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Per The Athletic's Jayna Bardahl and Paul Dehner Jr., the default language in the Bengals' offer is the same the Arizona Cardinals and Seattle Seahawks used to sign their 2025 first-round picks (Walter Nolen and Grey Zabel, respectively).


I’ve also heard it at least three times in FSR.
This post was edited on 7/24/25 at 6:50 pm
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:50 pm to
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Carl Pickens criticized Bruce Coslet, an objectively awful coach, and that’s why the bengals started putting this clause in contracts.

I’m not familiar with what he said
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 7/24/25 at 6:50 pm to
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dont “think” it would but I wouldn’t bet $17 million on it

Then don’t say it lol
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