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re: Why do tennis players get old faster than any other sport

Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:20 pm to
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Hall of Famers are, by definition, outliers.


You don't know what outliers means.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:21 pm to
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I stand by my outlier statement.


But you don't know what outlier means.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:22 pm to
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Again, outliers.


Again, you don't understand what the word outliers means.
Posted by GonePecan
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:23 pm to
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For your argument to be remotely valid, you'd have to be able to list several guys at multiple positions (RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, CB, S) who were the best in the league at or past 33.

Why 33? I said 30 for tennis players.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:35 pm to
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You don't know what outliers means.


You are quite literally an idiot.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:38 pm to
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You are quite literally an idiot.


Congrats on knowing what literally means.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:41 pm to
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Congrats on knowing what literally means.


Congrats on not knowing what outlier means and then making the same post 10 times
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:42 pm to
Boxers with a heavy emphasis on offense and don't protect themselves are usually done by late 20's.
Posted by LSU fan 246
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:44 pm to
im dizzy after reading the last page and a half



eta: he will probably tell me that i dont know what dizzy means
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Posted by GonePecan
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:45 pm to
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For your argument to be remotely valid, you'd have to be able to list several guys at multiple positions (RB, WR, OL, DL, LB, CB, S) who were the best in the league at or past 33.

Ok, I'll play along, but I didn't say they had to be the best in the world at tennis, just why they couldn't compete after 30 the way they can in other sports. Here are a few that were pretty damn good after 30 in the NFL. Marcus Allen and Walter Payton. Larry Allen and Bruce Mathews. Bruce Smith and Reggie Allen. Steve Largent and Jerry Rice. Darrel Green and Deion Sanders. I'm sure a better list could be made with some research.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:46 pm to
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Congrats on not knowing what outlier means and then making the same post 10 times


Congrats on your failure of a post.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:48 pm to
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Congrats on your failure of a post.


Care to explain the definition of outlier, and then explain how Sophandros used it incorrectly?
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:56 pm to
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Boxers with a heavy emphasis on offense and don't protect themselves are usually done by late 20's.


I once had a theory that both Mcenroe and Tyson flamed out early for this reason. Mcenroe was unquestionably the most aggressive tennis player to ever play the game. Tyson was the same way. My idea was basically that the mindset that is necessary to fuel that type of hyper-aggressive style fades away in your mid 20s.

My theory was garbage and so I scrapped it.

mcenroe flamed out because he took a year off to do a shitload of blow and be a celebrity, and never got back to the same level when he returned.

Tyson flamed out because Cus died, and then Jim Jacobs died, and then Robin Givens got in his ear and then Don King got in his and then he fired Kevin Rooney as a result. In other words, Tyson flamed out because he fired Kevin Rooney. I could probably write a 50 page paper on this subject. The unraveling of Tyson fascinates me.
Posted by CajunFootball
Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 4:58 pm to
Must you post three times in a row?


Outliers are observation that is numerically distant from the rest of the data. So something that rarely happens actually happing in stupid terms.
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 5:00 pm
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:11 pm to
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Care to explain the definition of outlier, and then explain how Sophandros used it incorrectly?


Bob Beamon going 29 feet 2.5 inches is an outlier.

John Isner beating Nicolas Mahut 70-68 is an outlier.

When random posters can casually rattle off dozens of examples of basketball and football players that were effective well into their 30s, those players -- and/or the ages in which they were still playing effectively -- are not even remotely close to anything that could be even loosely analogized to an outlier.

I thought people on this board were smart? I may have to go back to the Vol board.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:14 pm to
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Outliers are observation that is numerically distant from the rest of the data. So something that rarely happens actually happing in stupid terms.


Dude, you didn't have to post this. I mean, even the dude that doesn't know what it means probably has some idea of what it means.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:15 pm to
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When random posters can casually rattle off dozens of examples of basketball and football players that were effective well into their 30s, those players -- and/or the ages in which they were still playing effectively -- are not even remotely close to anything that could be even loosely analogized to an outlier.


So take your dozens listed's ages and then compare them to the mean of anyone who's ever played an ounce of pro, and then tell me they aren't outliers.

My point still stands , you're an idiot.
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
9490 posts
Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:18 pm to
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So take your dozens listed's ages and then compare them to the mean of anyone who's ever played an ounce of pro, and then tell me they aren't outliers.


How about you do this instead, smart guy? I don't need an excel spreadsheet to tell me that 32 isn't old for a basketball player.

Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:20 pm to
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Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/19/12 at 5:24 pm to
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this is actually what occurred to me

do they even make it into their twenties?

not that it's a sport


WTF are you stupid if gymnastics isn't a sport then what the hell is a sport
This post was edited on 7/19/12 at 5:25 pm
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