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re: Who was the best player never to win a Heisman Trophy?
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:03 am to dukke v
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:03 am to dukke v
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dukke v
Jim brown hater.
Go suck on Paul Hornung.
Go look up the Rose Bowl stats too.
I know more about those USC teams than you do. You just watched ESPN highlights and went gaga thinkink VY beat an all -time great defense.
Live in fantasy land old man.
Leinart had just a good of game as Young but a worse defense. Look at the stats you dense mythological thinking fart. You think Young won that game by himself?
Was he on D on 4th and 2. frick idiots sell Texas short and give praise to one man who had a statistically low game in the Rose Bowl that year.
Let go of ESPN mythology and actually read stats for that year regartdo. But you don't see facts, just highlights and confetti of VY romping into the end zone.
Never mind he almost threw the easiest Int to end the game 3 plays earlier but USCs D was so retarded they had walk-ons in the secondary that just knocked it down.
And why do you think Paul Hornung was better than Jim Brown? Talk about stupid.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 9:15 am
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Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:38 am to IS_IT_GAMEDAY
Ahhhh, 2007, when Mizzou smoked Arkansas in the Cotton Bowl. Good times, good times.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:46 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Where and when did I say Hourning was better than Brown??????
Posted on 5/17/21 at 9:59 am to RollTide1987
If the Heisman was awarded after the bowl season, Deshaun Watson would have won it in 2016 (his performance in 2015 while losing to Alabama might have done it, too). For as pedestrian as he was for stretches in 2016, his playoff performance was ridiculous.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:02 am to RollTide1987
Bubba Smith. Michigan State
Christian McCaffrey. Stanford
Peyton Manning. Tennessee. He was robbed clearly, but Woodson had some awesome games on national television. His one handed INT against MSU was replayed constantly.
Christian McCaffrey. Stanford
Peyton Manning. Tennessee. He was robbed clearly, but Woodson had some awesome games on national television. His one handed INT against MSU was replayed constantly.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:08 am to Ralph_Wiggum
Shaun Alexander
Derrick Thomas
Derrick Thomas
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:10 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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Woodson had some awesome games on national television. His one handed INT against MSU was replayed constantly.
I feel like his punt return against Ohio State sealed it for him, much like Desmond Howard's punt return against Ohio State in 1991.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:11 am to VADawg
This.......
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:11 am to Ralph_Wiggum
I’d think those Tennessee teams during the Peyton Years were talented enough to beat UF at least one of those seasons, no? I mean THEY BEAT UF the year after Peyton joined the pros lol.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:13 am to ThePTExperience1969
His losing to FLA every year didn’t help his cause, but the year after he left that Tenn team was loaded.And it was because of Peyton.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:16 am to dukke v
I presume they were loaded the years Peyton played for them too, not Fulmer secures bums since this was the program’s heyday
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:18 am to RollTide1987
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Johnny Majors, HB, Tennessee
Jim Brown, Syracuse
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:30 am to dukke v
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but the year after he left that Tenn team was loaded
Thank you. It annoys me when people talk about the ‘98 team like they were a bunch of table scraps. Offensive line was terrific. WR was a strength. Backfield, even after Jamal Lewis popped his knee was great. And the defense was flat awesome.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:32 am to bamameister
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Derrick Thomas
Awesome player who should have been invited to the Heisman ceremony, but nowhere near close to being the best in football in 1988. That was the year Barry Sanders went ham.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 10:42 am to ThePTExperience1969
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I’d think those Tennessee teams during the Peyton Years were talented enough to beat UF at least one of those seasons, no? I mean THEY BEAT UF the year after Peyton joined the pros lol.
The difference in those games was always that Florida got a consistent pass rush on Manning and Tennessee let Wuerffel and Doug Johnson have 12 days to sit back in the pocket and throw the ball.
These games are on YouTube and you can see Manning running for his life on a lot of his dropbacks.
There is another element to this that is never talked about. In those Florida/Tennessee games, the team who ran the ball best always won except for the 2000 game when Tennessee kicked a bunch of FGs in the red zone.
Florida outrushed Tennessee in all three of those games (1995-1997) with Manning at QB for Tennessee.
This post was edited on 5/17/21 at 11:13 am
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:39 am to VADawg
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I feel like his punt return against Ohio State sealed it for him, much like Desmond Howard's punt return against Ohio State in 1991.
It is still hard for me to piece together that Desmond Howard was an MVP of a Super Bowl
Because he is so fricking stupid on TV
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:53 am to Giant Leaf
He is actually very very smart..... don’t see many Bama grads doing what he is.......
Posted on 5/17/21 at 11:56 am to RollTide1987
This conversation starts and ends with Fitzgerald.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:03 pm to Giant Leaf
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Reinvented a football position that always existed
And he is the nicest guy in the world
Yes he did and yes he is. A fantastic Buckeye in every respect.
Posted on 5/17/21 at 12:10 pm to VABuckeye
Pace was very badass.......
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