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re: who should go number #1 in the NBA draft this year?

Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:43 pm to
Posted by VermilionTiger
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:43 pm to
Pretty sure they can trade him to whoever after his no trade clause expires in the summer
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:47 pm to
NcLemore.

Trade it.
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19 &lt-- oops
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 4:48 pm to
I'd take Victor A. from Indiana with zero hesitation.
Posted by beaumont livingston
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:07 pm to
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I thought the hornets couldn't trade Gordon to Phoenix because they were the team that signed his offer sheet.


that was my understanding also. any of the other nba teams except phoenix.
Posted by REG861
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:09 pm to
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Plumlee will be a better pro than Zeller.


I'm a Duke fan and find this extremely laughable
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:12 pm to
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that was my understanding also. any of the other nba teams except phoenix.


They can trade him to any team once the one full year after the Hornets/Pelicans matched his offer.

Let him go be the "cornerstone" for Phoenix.

Let those Phoenix trainers magically heal another players body.

Phoenix should have a top-5 pick in the draft, and although its not a very strong draft; I think adding two guys like Porter and Shabazz is well worth it.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:47 pm to
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Let those Phoenix trainers magically heal another players body.




To be fair, I'm of the opionion the Pelicans staff has sucked over the years.


but I wouldn't trade him to Phoneix unless they have the #1 pick AND we love the player.

I'd rather trade EG10 to the Bulls for Luol Deng.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:48 pm to
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I'd rather trade EG10 to the Bulls for Luol Deng.


Yall can take Boozer too. Just make sure to include Anthony Davis
Posted by TotesMcGotes
New York, New York
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:51 pm to
No one is trading the #1 pick for Eric Gordon, regardless of how shitty this draft is.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:54 pm to
In all seriousness, if Gordon could stay healthy, I would LOVE a Gordon for Deng swap.

Gordon gets out of a city he doesn't wanna be, and Deng gives yall a consistent presence defensively, and valuable leadership on the floor.

Would give DRose finally a legit scoring guard to play with.
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 5:55 pm to

He is top 10 on every mock draft and rising
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:26 pm to
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I'd rather trade EG10 to the Bulls for Luol Deng.


don't understand of trading for an expiring, big contract guy.

if the Pelicans trade Gordon, they should do so with the idea in mind to get rid of a big contract like his and to get a player back who is on his rookie contract
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:32 pm to
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with the idea in mind to get rid of a big contract like his and to get a player back who is on his rookie contract



salaries still have to match up though.

Gordon is a max player and Deng is near enough to match with 2 less years. If we could steal Jimmy Butler from them by throwing in Aminu or Rivers then there you go.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:43 pm to
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salaries still have to match up though.


Phoenix is going to have cap room. They'd have to include Dudley, Brown, Scola, etc.

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Gordon is a max player and Deng is near enough to match with 2 less years. If we could steal Jimmy Butler from them by throwing in Aminu or Rivers then there you go.


To justify trading Gordon for Deng, they'd have to extend him. I am not down paying a fringe all-star player $13 million a year.

And I like Jimmy Butler probably more than anyone on this board. But, that's not enough either to justify trading Gordon
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:45 pm to
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To justify trading Gordon for Deng, they'd have to extend him. I am not down paying a fringe all-star player $13 million a year.

And I like Jimmy Butler probably more than anyone on this board. But, that's not enough either to justify trading Gordon


Bulls aren't giving up Butler. Management is very high on him.

More likely that the Gar/Pax will throw in Teague and the future Charlotte lottery pick.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:49 pm to
The Pelicans would have to wait until 2040 with all the restrictions on that pick to actually acquire it.

ETA: just looked it up. 2016 is when they would probably own the pick. That's just too long of a wait.

I like Teague, though.

This post was edited on 2/22/13 at 6:52 pm
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
54364 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:55 pm to
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ETA: just looked it up. 2016 is when they would probably own the pick


Thing is, Charlotte aint going anywhere anytime soon. That still could easily be a top 5 pick 3 years from now.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/22/13 at 6:56 pm to
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To justify trading Gordon for Deng, they'd have to extend him. I am not down paying a fringe all-star player $13 million a year.


You undersell Deng here. Dude wouldn't make the West All-Stars, but he's a minutes eater and a good defender with the length to guard Durant. Why would they extend him? Freeing a cap space in order to lock down other players is a great play. Davis will be extended at the earliest date, who knows about the future lotto pick, if Butler and 2 extra years of cap flexibility isn't right around Gordons worth right now, what is?
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27836 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:04 pm to
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You undersell Deng here.


How an I underselling him? I called him a fringe AS player. You called him not an AS.
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Dude wouldn't make the West All-Stars


So you must agree to some extent that he is overpaid.
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Butler and 2 extra years of cap flexibility isn't right around Gordons worth right now, what is?


Butler is still a "young" bench player. And truth be told, he ain't that young. What is he, 24?

Unless I was assured of extending Deng for $9-$10 and get Teague thrown in, there's better options to be had.
Posted by RonBurgundy
Whale's Vagina(San Diego)
Member since Oct 2005
13302 posts
Posted on 2/22/13 at 7:11 pm to
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How an I underselling him? I called him a fringe AS player. You called him not an AS.


As in value, the AS team doesn't mean much to me ever since Big Cat made one. Deng, imo, is player of high value in the league to aforementioned talents he brings to the table.

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So you must agree to some extent that he is overpaid.

There are tons of overpaid players in the NBA, but EG10 is more overpaid than Deng.


quote:

Butler is still a "young" bench player. And truth be told, he ain't that young. What is he, 24?

Unless I was assured of extending Deng for $9-$10 and get Teague thrown in, there's better options to be had.


to each his own, I'm not sold on Teague bringing more value than Butler would.
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