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re: Who are your top 5 greatest college basketball coaches?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:36 pm to theducks
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:36 pm to theducks
No.
I'm wondering why when Dean Smith retired...so many ESPN and pundits were clamoring all over him like he was the GOAT.
I don't get the fascination. North Carolina is a brand name...I guess he made that with ACC titles. Not really Nattys.
He created boring arse basketball that the NCAA had to institute a shot-clock.
UCLA had a fast break - BEFORE the shot clock.
I honestly don't understand why someone who was intent on bastardizing the sport - and it didn't even work out for him in terms of winning Nattys is some god.
Was he a really good coach? Sure.
Some god that people like you worship? I don't think so.
Can you imagine if Coach K won a national title in 2000 - his first ever after taking over Duke in 1980 - then coached until 2016 and finally won another one? And then retired?
And everyone said he was the best ever?
I'm wondering why when Dean Smith retired...so many ESPN and pundits were clamoring all over him like he was the GOAT.
I don't get the fascination. North Carolina is a brand name...I guess he made that with ACC titles. Not really Nattys.
He created boring arse basketball that the NCAA had to institute a shot-clock.
UCLA had a fast break - BEFORE the shot clock.
I honestly don't understand why someone who was intent on bastardizing the sport - and it didn't even work out for him in terms of winning Nattys is some god.
Was he a really good coach? Sure.
Some god that people like you worship? I don't think so.
Can you imagine if Coach K won a national title in 2000 - his first ever after taking over Duke in 1980 - then coached until 2016 and finally won another one? And then retired?
And everyone said he was the best ever?
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 6:40 pm
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Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:37 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Dumbass when he won the NIT it was big tournament the NCAA hadn't expanded to 64 it was just at 48 and still played on campuses.
To win a national Juco championship is a big deal also. I know you think you're a sports sensei but you're wrong on this one.
To win a national Juco championship is a big deal also. I know you think you're a sports sensei but you're wrong on this one.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:51 pm to sms151t
Rick pitino is top 5
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:54 pm to David Banner
quote:
1. John Wooden 2. Bobby Knight 3. Mike Krzyzewksi 4. Dean Smith
Nice....
quote:
5. Johnny Jones
Showing how stupid you are...
Here is your attention...
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:56 pm to Statsattack
Pitino top 5 Current? Maybe. Top 5 all time? Ehhhhhh
Posted on 3/25/17 at 6:58 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
mizzoubuckeyeiowa
STFU.....
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:06 pm to David Banner
It's unique that when Dean Smith died - most of the articles were "a greater man than coach." That's fine. I don't know.
But everyone was talking about his humanity and not coaching. I think there was some confluence of he's really a great guy and was great for civil rights...lets mythologize him coaching-wise too.
There's a difference between man and what you do on the court just in the game - just as there is a difference what you do for the game.
I've read that Smith did a lot for the game...But Smith also had regressive basketball tactics and philosophy in not growing the game. But he was also successful...more so later in his life...when I think he let players take over and be themselves and he stopped micro-managing every possession. He finally let his players play and they won a title when he was 50 years old.
As for his nemesis and pupil/friend of Knight and argument for GOAT in his own right...Coach K.
"You can have a pretty good argument about who is the second-greatest college coach of all time. There's absolutely no argument about who is the greatest." - Mike Krzyzewski
(Talking about Wooden, of course)
But everyone was talking about his humanity and not coaching. I think there was some confluence of he's really a great guy and was great for civil rights...lets mythologize him coaching-wise too.
There's a difference between man and what you do on the court just in the game - just as there is a difference what you do for the game.
I've read that Smith did a lot for the game...But Smith also had regressive basketball tactics and philosophy in not growing the game. But he was also successful...more so later in his life...when I think he let players take over and be themselves and he stopped micro-managing every possession. He finally let his players play and they won a title when he was 50 years old.
As for his nemesis and pupil/friend of Knight and argument for GOAT in his own right...Coach K.
"You can have a pretty good argument about who is the second-greatest college coach of all time. There's absolutely no argument about who is the greatest." - Mike Krzyzewski
(Talking about Wooden, of course)
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 7:08 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:13 pm to dukke v
Hey quick question...
You're old...
How were those 16-12 UNC games in the 1960's/1970's?
If that's your thing...but I don't see the appeal. Other famous coaches have voiced my same opinion.
There's Top 15-Top10 and then there's the real Top 5.
You're old...
How were those 16-12 UNC games in the 1960's/1970's?
If that's your thing...but I don't see the appeal. Other famous coaches have voiced my same opinion.
There's Top 15-Top10 and then there's the real Top 5.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:17 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Coach K has one hell of an argument for 2nd best ever. He has five national titles. Sure, he has been upset early a few times but that is bound to happen when you're in the tournament every year and you're everyone's Super Bowl. He has several more years when Duke was on the verge of a National Title but didn't win for whatever reason.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:21 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:
Hey quick question...
How did Wooden get away with cheating all those years?????
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:26 pm to Tiger Ugly
quote:
Al Maguire
Underrated because he retired young, and, like Madden, his TV career overshadowed his coaching career, but the record is there.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:34 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Not much mention of Adolph Rupp. That's probably because he died before most people that post on this site were born.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:42 pm to David Banner
1. Wooden
2. K
3. Knight
4. Rupp
5. Smith
2. K
3. Knight
4. Rupp
5. Smith
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:47 pm to 1965Tiger
quote:
Adolph Rupp
Possibly because some of his players shaved points, he was a notorious racist, and his most memorable title game was a loss to Texas Western.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:47 pm to David Banner
1. Sam Gilbert
2. Coach K
3. Bobby Knight
4. Dean Smith
5. Pitino
Edit: Forgot about Rupp.
2. Coach K
3. Bobby Knight
4. Dean Smith
5. Pitino
Edit: Forgot about Rupp.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:48 pm to FightinTigersDammit
You could argue Frank McQuire was the better coach than Al Maquire.
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 7:49 pm
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:50 pm to David Banner
Rick Stansbury
Bruce Pearl
Larry Eustachy
Billy Gillispie
Jerry Tarkanian
Bruce Pearl
Larry Eustachy
Billy Gillispie
Jerry Tarkanian
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:52 pm to sms151t
quote:
You could argue Frank McQuire was the better coach than Al Maquire.
College or pro?
Posted on 3/25/17 at 7:58 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:
Possibly because some of his players shaved points, he was a notorious racist, and his most memorable title game was a loss to Texas Western.
So I take it you knew him very well.
Posted on 3/25/17 at 8:03 pm to FightinTigersDammit
College Frank won 100 games at 3 separate schools
St Johns
Both Carolinas
Built the Carolina dynasty initially
St Johns
Both Carolinas
Built the Carolina dynasty initially
This post was edited on 3/25/17 at 8:05 pm
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