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re: Which MLB teams have some of the better farm systems?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:39 pm to vidtiger23
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:39 pm to vidtiger23
Clearly the Marlins. They have a solid minor league set up going and then they develop them nicely in the majors for other teams
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:12 am to tickfawtiger
quote:The Astros have been rebuilding their farm system for the past several years, and they now have lots of talent in the minors.
Yes the Astros have a great farm system....and each and every year the major league teams' record reflects that greatness.
The cubs are another such team....seemingly always competitive...lmao
cue the "just give it time bunch"..lol
They didn't used to have a really deep farm system... but now they do. You haven't seen the results in the Majors yet because the "older" prospects are just now starting to get called up.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 10:31 am to vidtiger23
In past years the Marlins have had one of the best. All those players we trade away and what not brings some talent. We've had 4 ROY award winners in the past decade and many more in the top voting. Marlins FTW.
And as you can see, they're paying off now.
And as you can see, they're paying off now.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 6/4/14 at 11:20 am to tickfawtiger
Jesus tickfawtiger, did Luhnow or Crane frick your wife? Did they murder your children or steal your grandparents estate? Did they deliberately shite in your cheerios once upon a time? Every time I see an idiot trashing the Stros, it is your uneducated self. Have you seen the Stros lately or do you want to remain ignorant? Here, let me enlighten you...
The Stros are 16-14 since May 1st. They were on a 6 game winning streak just last week and now have Singleton and Springer in the bigs producing. Springer had a span last month where he hit 7 bombs in 7 days, and is up to 10 HRs on the season already. Singleton homered yesterday in his first big league game. Altuve leads the AL in hits and is batting over .300. The farm system, which you bash, is stock piled with more quality talent like all 3 of them. I told you in another thread and I will say it again, Houston is coming. They currently sit at 25-34 on the season, which is drastically better than last season, where we finished 51-111. You keep trashing the team, but clearly Luhnow knows what the hell he is doing, so why dont you sit back and watch it happen right before your eyes. Houston is returning to their former self whether you like it or not.
The Stros are 16-14 since May 1st. They were on a 6 game winning streak just last week and now have Singleton and Springer in the bigs producing. Springer had a span last month where he hit 7 bombs in 7 days, and is up to 10 HRs on the season already. Singleton homered yesterday in his first big league game. Altuve leads the AL in hits and is batting over .300. The farm system, which you bash, is stock piled with more quality talent like all 3 of them. I told you in another thread and I will say it again, Houston is coming. They currently sit at 25-34 on the season, which is drastically better than last season, where we finished 51-111. You keep trashing the team, but clearly Luhnow knows what the hell he is doing, so why dont you sit back and watch it happen right before your eyes. Houston is returning to their former self whether you like it or not.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 11:23 am
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:00 pm to mkibod1
actually the royals have a very good farm system
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:13 pm to tickfawtiger
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How do they "sell" this approach to their few remaining season ticket holders ?
by explaining widows of competitiveness and getting past the meatball fans that demand win now at all cost who are ignorant to the pitfalls of that strategy.
Funny you use the cubs as an example there also...becuase they did do that for a 2-3 year window for win at all cost that the new FO is having to fix. So if that regime is part of 'one fo the worst adminstered/managed clubs' yet the oposite way in which the astros are handleing is also a bad approach, then what's the right approach?
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:18 pm to cheesesteak501
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We've had 4 ROY award winners in the past decade and many more in the top voting. Marlins FTW
yea but is that a testiment to the farm or how savy they were in trades, because weren't both hanley and dontrell traded to the marlins right before (within a year) they made it to the bigs?
That certianly doesn't take away from anythign they've done, and infact is more impressive in my mind, and they very well could have traded players they developed for those pieces, just seems like those guys were more major league impact ready than player developed on the farm.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:32 pm to mkibod1
Calm down killer ! It'll be OK if you just stay on your meds...LOL
I believe that the Astros will have to begin "selling" all that touted talent IF, they can't put a competitive product on the field VERY soon. Ticket buyers and sponsors can't be duped much longer !
p.s. the Astros are not the only "culprits"...the cubs have done a MAGNIFICIENT job of out right bamboozling their own fans for pretty near 100 yrs. I guess they just have more to sell with the bleacher-bums,Wrigleyville atmosphere and all !
Would love to see a European relegation system for pro sorts here. IF it were in place, both the lastros and cubs would be 3rd division now..LOL
I believe that the Astros will have to begin "selling" all that touted talent IF, they can't put a competitive product on the field VERY soon. Ticket buyers and sponsors can't be duped much longer !
p.s. the Astros are not the only "culprits"...the cubs have done a MAGNIFICIENT job of out right bamboozling their own fans for pretty near 100 yrs. I guess they just have more to sell with the bleacher-bums,Wrigleyville atmosphere and all !
Would love to see a European relegation system for pro sorts here. IF it were in place, both the lastros and cubs would be 3rd division now..LOL
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:51 pm to tickfawtiger
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lastros
Clearly your reading comprehension is shite or you are just flat out retarded. They just went over .500 in May. Not exactly in last place anymore. They are selling that young talent and the ballpark attendance was much better last weekend than when I went in April. I also expect that to continue. The park will also fill up if the team keeps that competitive record because of the Comcast deal that currently prevents most Houstonians from viewing the games on TV. I just find it funny you trash the Astros for stealing from fans. Nobody is forced to go and people vote with their dollars. Last year, Houston was the most profitable team in the league, thou that is not really a great accomplishment, but they have invested heavily in the draft the past few years. The young talent is finally coming to fruition in the bigs and the onfield quality today is already much better than it was at the start of the season. Its impossible to truly go from last to first in the MLB in one season.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:53 pm to tickfawtiger
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the cubs have done a MAGNIFICIENT job of out right bamboozling their own fans for pretty near 100 yrs.
oh i get it now. You have an ax to grind.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 12:59 pm to tickfawtiger
quote:You are acting like the Astros have been bad for decades. They've been bad for the past few years. Before that they were a very respectable ball club for the past 20 years. They finished either 1st or 2nd in their division 12 out of the 13 years from '94 to '06. They've been to the World Series, the NLCS a few times, etc.
Calm down killer ! It'll be OK if you just stay on your meds...LOL
I believe that the Astros will have to begin "selling" all that touted talent IF, they can't put a competitive product on the field VERY soon. Ticket buyers and sponsors can't be duped much longer !
p.s. the Astros are not the only "culprits"...the cubs have done a MAGNIFICIENT job of out right bamboozling their own fans for pretty near 100 yrs. I guess they just have more to sell with the bleacher-bums,Wrigleyville atmosphere and all !
Would love to see a European relegation system for pro sorts here. IF it were in place, both the lastros and cubs would be 3rd division now..LOL
Then their aging vets retired or moved on, and they were mediocre for a few more years, and then they decided they had to just blow it all up and start over.
They are rebuilding right now. It happens to every team.
And the fans understand what the organization is doing.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:01 pm to piggidyphish
He is a rather pathetic breed so do not mind him. Only time he pops in MLB threads is when the Astros/Cubs come to mind so he can bash them for doing what they do, all the while neglecting to look at the front office transitions and denying the fact it takes time for a new GM to implement their system and have results with it. Very narrow minded meathead who lacks the brain power to comprehend how MLB clubs work outside of the Angles, Yankees, and Sox.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:15 pm to mkibod1
Again, calm down killer...you're going to give yourself a heart attack !
Your juvenile name calling will not dissuade me from voicing my OWN opinion. Used to have season tickets to the cluster%*#@ known as the astros. When I could no longer interest customers to even attend games vs. "name opponents", I dropped them....many of the locals will no longer drink the Kool-Aid...you and your pals on the other hand...lol @ enraged mkibod
Your juvenile name calling will not dissuade me from voicing my OWN opinion. Used to have season tickets to the cluster%*#@ known as the astros. When I could no longer interest customers to even attend games vs. "name opponents", I dropped them....many of the locals will no longer drink the Kool-Aid...you and your pals on the other hand...lol @ enraged mkibod
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:21 pm to tickfawtiger
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Again, calm down killer
why do people do this?
Start with a throw away line. Projecting an expression to another poster seems
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juvenile
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Used to have season tickets to the cluster%*#@ known as the astros.
I don't think this disclosure was needed to convince us you're a fair weather fan.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:29 pm to tickfawtiger
I am completely calm sweetheart. Your factless bashing of the club is old though. We get it, you got burned by the club because you bought season tickets to a crappy team. Shame on you for not being able to see what was about to unfold. If you were really an Astros fan, you would know what happened with Drayton and know he half arse owned the club after the failed World Series run in 2006. Every GM after Hunsicker was just a yes man for Drayton and he really let the club crumble because he did not care after his best option/time window to win it all did not pan out.
Posted on 6/4/14 at 1:50 pm to vidtiger23
OP,
The Astros have a good farm system again. They have 4 (after Singleton was promoted to the bigs) prospects currently ranked in the Top 50 of all the MLB. They have 7 in the top 100. The Pirates, Cubs, Red Sox, and Twins also have a solid amount of highly touted prospects.
The Astros have a good farm system again. They have 4 (after Singleton was promoted to the bigs) prospects currently ranked in the Top 50 of all the MLB. They have 7 in the top 100. The Pirates, Cubs, Red Sox, and Twins also have a solid amount of highly touted prospects.
This post was edited on 6/4/14 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:00 pm to vidtiger23
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Posted on 6/4/14 at 2:02 pm to mkibod1
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but clearly Luhnow knows what the hell he is doing,
Certainly seemed to work out for the Cardinals all through the 2000s.
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