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re: Where will Paul Johnson coach next?

Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by ctalati32
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
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GT has won a NC since UGA has. Not mention the city of ATL alone supplies enough talent to compete on a national level. It would be a great job for the right coach.



True but it's not the same climate with the admin now as then. There were more exemptions given for football players who didn't meet admin requirements in the 90s than there are now.

There was an issue with players across all sports not able to keep up with grades and become ineligible and the administration buckled down.
Posted by Starrkevious Ringo
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:02 pm to
Maybe Oglethorpe can start up a team.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:07 pm to
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He's better than Chan who was there before. At least Paul Johnson won an ACC title.



fatneck won a title because it was a completely different system that nobody was used to yet. And with chan's players no less. Nesbitt, thomas, dwyer, that safety, etc.

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The issue isn't the O that we run or Paul Johnson


Yes, yes it aboslutely is. It's an offense made for high schools and IAA schools. No major conference school shhould run that, and tech has seen why. It's a joke, mickey mouse offense.

You may tout your academic standards, but George O'Leary was a stud at tech. Yall were ranked (and ranked fairly high, like top 15ish) just about every year. For frick's sake you had a heisman trophy finalist under o'leary.

Gailey just wasn't that great of a coach, but he could recruit. O'Leary was a very good coach. Johnson is neither a good coach or recruiter.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45049 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:10 pm to
Gailey failed at every stop, but kept getting jobs. Blows my mind.
Posted by BuckheadBetty
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:11 pm to
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on't really have many easy majors or easy routes for athletes to take to avoid tough classes at GT,


typical response from a Tech nerd and complete crap. I know plenty of idiots that went to Tech

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it's hard to recruit.


because Tech sucks and no one wants to go there. not to mention it sits atop the largest sewage line on the city of Atlanta. FACT.

Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45049 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:13 pm to
you mad
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:14 pm to
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e don't really have many easy majors or easy routes for athletes to take to avoid tough classes at GT








What about stephon "georgia tech university" marbury? Reubun '90 pounds of pot' houston? You're telling me EVERY athlete that plays at tech is taking calculus their first semester? If you think that's correct you're a fricking idiot.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175997 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:14 pm to
Georgia Tech is pathetic for hiring him and letting him run that offense there.
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30228 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:15 pm to
[quote] Paul is failing everywhere. On the field, recruiting,[/quote

It doesn't help him that he is really unlikable too.
Posted by FT
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26925 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:16 pm to
A bigger issue than the classes is the initial admissions.
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4068 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:16 pm to

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Yes, yes it aboslutely is. It's an offense made for high schools and IAA schools. No major conference school shhould run that, and tech has seen why. It's a joke, mickey mouse offense.


That's what they said about Malzhan's O at Auburn

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You may tout your academic standards, but George O'Leary was a stud at tech. Yall were ranked (and ranked fairly high, like top 15ish) just about every year. For frick's sake you had a heisman trophy finalist under o'leary.



And like I said we can't pull in the same kind of players due to tighter academic restrictions and less exemptions so we don't pull those types of players.

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Gailey just wasn't that great of a coach, but he could recruit. O'Leary was a very good coach. Johnson is neither a good coach or recruiter.


Johnson is a terrible recruiter but he's a decent coach.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Paul Johnson is a terrific coach and everyone should run his system. I think he's average/ good, but I don't think Tech can do much better. I think playing for the ACC title 3-4 times per decade is the ceiling for the team under the current admin's restrictions.
Posted by BuckheadBetty
Buckhead
Member since Jul 2014
333 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:17 pm to


not mad. i have grown up listening to these arrogant shitburgers talk about what a great school they think Tech is. It is a disgusting melting pot of losers. Plain and simple.
Posted by FT
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
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It is a disgusting melting pot of losers. Plain and simple.
Have you seen UGA fans? The alumni are pretty cool, but the sidewalk UGA fans are the worst in the country. Worse than Texas sidewalk fans.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:18 pm to
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He's better than Chan who was there before. At least Paul Johnson won an ACC title.


The issue isn't the O that we run or Paul Johnson, the issue is Tech itself. We won't ever get the stud players to match up well against the bigger schools. The admin at GT just isn't interested in that, and unlike the Notre Dame and Stanford, we don't really have many easy majors or easy routes for athletes to take to avoid tough classes at GT, so it's hard to recruit.

Excluding this season:
Paul Johnson is 47-32 with 3 division titles and 1 conference title
Chan Gailey was 44-33 with 1 division title
George O'Leart was 53-30 with 1 conference title



You pretty much validate my prior statement.

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I think their fans are content with the mediocre crap he rolls out there every year.

This post was edited on 9/6/14 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Tigertown in ATL
Georgia foothills
Member since Sep 2009
30228 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:20 pm to
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not to mention it sits atop the largest sewage line on the city of Atlanta. FACT.


This is just stupid.
Posted by BuckheadBetty
Buckhead
Member since Jul 2014
333 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:20 pm to
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I don't think Tech can do much better.


correct

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I think playing for the ACC title 3-4 times per decade


oh sure, every decade

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current admin's restrictions.


it isn't restrictive. Y'all suck.

Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4068 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:21 pm to
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What about stephon "georgia tech university" marbury? Reubun '90 pounds of pot' houston? You're telling me EVERY athlete that plays at tech is taking calculus their first semester? If you think that's correct you're a fricking idiot.


Did you not get the part that things now are different than they were in the 90s? Why is bringing up Marbury help your argument?

Houston was a moron but not in the classroom.

And if i'm not mistaken all GT students have to take calculus at some point in the tenure not necessarily in their first semester.
Not all of us can have Jim Harrick Jr.'s Coaching Principles and Strategies of Basketball class with a question on the final of "How many points is a 3-pointer worth?"
Posted by BuckheadBetty
Buckhead
Member since Jul 2014
333 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:22 pm to
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This is just stupid.


apparently you are stupid and not from Atlanta. It is a fact.
Posted by ctalati32
Member since Sep 2007
4068 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:22 pm to
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You pretty much validate my prior statement.


I didn't deny it.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89680 posts
Posted on 9/6/14 at 5:23 pm to
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That's what they said about Malzhan's O at Auburn



Malzahn's system is innovative. It hasn't been seen at the college ranks much (much like spurrier's fun and gun, or meyer's spread), and it's working. The triple option isn't innovative. It's been run for decades upon decades, before people moved on to better ideas. PJ is still running that antiquated system. There's a reason nobody runs the triple option in the NFL.

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Johnson is a terrible recruiter but he's a decent coach.


How so? What has led you to believe that? The only thing I need to know about him as a coach was in 2009 when tech, a triple option team that runs that system as their bread and butter, threw 4 straight times with the game on the line in the biggest game of the year and didn't get a first down. If PJ was legimitately a good coach he would change his offense to something that wins ballgames. Struggling in the 4th quarter against wofford and struggling against tulane isn't good coaching.

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I think he's average/ good


I think he's below average/average

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I don't think Tech can do much better.


People constantly say UGA underachieves and is a "sleeping giant", but tech has been a sleeping giant their entire existence. I hate to say antyhign even remotely positive about tech, but all it would take is a good coach and tech could be something. frick look at SC, they had over 100 years of ineptitude and all it took was spurrier and they're winning 11 games a year. All it will take is one coach that can recruit/sell atlanta to the kids in metro atlanta to come to tech (with a normal offense) and yall could do something.
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