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Posted on 7/14/18 at 2:11 pm to dukke v
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Marino was A statue
Bruce Smith, one of the greatest pass rushers of our time disagrees. Smith said Marino was the hardest quarterback to get to. As soon as he thought he had him, the ball was gone.
Saying that about a quarterback you know is throwing the ball 70 percent of the time is telling
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:05 pm to lsufan112001
Shoulda?
Instead of Kemp? He lost two of his 4 super bowls in Marino era on "fg hit crossbar."
Tarkenton got to 4 super bowls.
Raiders and Steelers said hi.
Instead of Kemp? He lost two of his 4 super bowls in Marino era on "fg hit crossbar."
Tarkenton got to 4 super bowls.
Raiders and Steelers said hi.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:18 pm to CelticDog
The three guys who would’ve destroyed the records had they played now are Staubach, Montana, andYoung.
Marino would’ve been thought of just as he is, incredible.
I’d love to seen Bartkowski and Anderson in a Run and Shoot. They were perfect for those offenses.
Marino would’ve been thought of just as he is, incredible.
I’d love to seen Bartkowski and Anderson in a Run and Shoot. They were perfect for those offenses.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 3:20 pm to CelticDog
Fran only got to 3. Joe Kapp was the QB for the Vikings for the first one. Tarkenton was in New York.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 4:34 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Dan’s ability to elude and avoid pass-rushers was first-class particularly for someone who wasn’t an athlete like Elway, almost a work of art he and Dan Fouts were tough AF in that pocket
Posted on 7/14/18 at 5:45 pm to sms151t
We need to honor Otto Graham while we are giving Marino modern rules.
Like young, graham played in a lesser league before nfl.
Unlike young, graham won everything in sight.
Piece de resistance was when Cleveland moved from American to nfl. graham and some of his team were in the nfl rookies vs big boy hall of fame game.
Rookies crushed the packers.
Graham won 3 nfl titles, 4 American
Holds all time nfl record for yards per catch. 8.9
Rules favor the old timers in this way,runner with ball could get back up If They lost balance. Guys were being drilled on the ground.
33 rushing Tds
2 years army after college.
Like young, graham played in a lesser league before nfl.
Unlike young, graham won everything in sight.
Piece de resistance was when Cleveland moved from American to nfl. graham and some of his team were in the nfl rookies vs big boy hall of fame game.
Rookies crushed the packers.
Graham won 3 nfl titles, 4 American
Holds all time nfl record for yards per catch. 8.9
Rules favor the old timers in this way,runner with ball could get back up If They lost balance. Guys were being drilled on the ground.
33 rushing Tds
2 years army after college.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:14 pm to CelticDog
Dude finished his career with a pretty damn high passer rating for the 1950s, achieved some very accurate passing seasons for the time an impressive QB no doubt
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:17 pm to CelticDog
Sammy Baugh bro 70% completion pct in the 1940s!!! Plus he was a good DB and tremendous punter what a legend
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:28 pm to ThePTExperience1969
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Dude finished his career with a pretty damn high passer rating for the 1950s, achieved some very accurate passing seasons for the time an impressive QB no doubt
His Coach was Paul Brown and he was the 1st to master the short passing Offense.
Bill Walsh gets far too much credit as some genius for the the Offenses Brown developed decades before and he learned from Brown. ( Belichick says the West Coast Offenses should be called the Ohio River Offense since it was created by Brown). Liberal passing rules help the offense really take off in the early 80's.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:39 pm to sugar71
You’ve seen the highlights, Otto could throw accurately deep as well us football connoisseurs we know who can play
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:45 pm to tankyank13
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Bruce Smith, one of the greatest pass rushers of our time disagrees. Smith said Marino was the hardest quarterback to get to. As soon as he thought he had him, the ball was gone.
Marino was a statue - but also the most difficult guy to sack because his release was superhuman fast.
Marino could hold onto the ball until the last second a defender was about to cold-cock him and the ball would be gone as a meaty paw is slamming against his head.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 6:54 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I heard Marino in the pocket was compared to a matador with a bull in terms of the intricacy and ability to avoid with nuanced foot movements and the eye test supports this, he’s not the scrambler Staubach and Elway were but he was damn hard to sack that release helped immensely too
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:17 pm to ThePTExperience1969
Look, Marino didn't move...I watched him all the way from '84 to whenever he retired.
It was a big deal for him to roll out even when he was young. Like Manning trying to roll out, looks slow and weird.
Marino never danced in the pocket either. That's what his lineman loved about him, he set the pocket and didn't change it so they knew where to push their man away.
All I remember Marino doing is shoulder shrugs and side-steps.
But mostly he just got rid of the ball.
Dan Marino led the league in lowest sack % 10 times.
Without moving like an Elway, that should tell you something about how much of a pure passer he was...it was his entire game, nothing else.
It was a big deal for him to roll out even when he was young. Like Manning trying to roll out, looks slow and weird.
Marino never danced in the pocket either. That's what his lineman loved about him, he set the pocket and didn't change it so they knew where to push their man away.
All I remember Marino doing is shoulder shrugs and side-steps.
But mostly he just got rid of the ball.
Dan Marino led the league in lowest sack % 10 times.
Without moving like an Elway, that should tell you something about how much of a pure passer he was...it was his entire game, nothing else.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:20 pm to ThePTExperience1969
He would slide but not move. He had great feet like the Mannings but his ability to go from load to release was incredible
Peyton and Eli’s footwork in the pocket are what should be taught to kids everywhere.
Peyton and Eli’s footwork in the pocket are what should be taught to kids everywhere.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 7:21 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:24 pm to sms151t
Terry Bradshaw and Joe Namath would be throwing for 5k yearly as well. They could fit balls into places just on velocity. Those two would throw the dig and smash all day and not be stopped since you can’t take out guys in mid route or grab guys once off the line.
This post was edited on 7/14/18 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 7/14/18 at 7:42 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Look, Marino didn't move...I watched him all the way from '84 to whenever he retired. It was a big deal for him to roll out even when he was young. Like Manning trying to roll out, looks slow and weird. Marino never danced in the pocket either. That's what his lineman loved about him, he set the pocket and didn't change it so they knew where to push their man away. All I remember Marino doing is shoulder shrugs and side-steps. But mostly he just got rid of the ball. Dan Marino led the league in lowest sack % 10 times. Without moving like an Elway, that should tell you something about how much of a pure passer he was...it was his entire game, nothing else.
Marino had a great pass-blocking line and an incredibly quick release, much like another Pennsylvania QB, Joe Namath, which led to some very low sack totals.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 8:29 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Marino had a great pass-blocking line
Yeah, he gave them all Isotoners one year.
And his line was a quid pro quo.
His line was benefited and surely grateful that Marino always had a reliable pocket that he set. They always knew where he was...consistent drop and didn't move.
That greatly helps O-lineman; they freaking hate when their QB is changing his drop depth or constantly moving around in the pocket.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 8:41 pm to sms151t
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Joe Namath would be throwing for 5k yearly as well.
Some of the youngsters may not know that Joe was the first to throw for 4.000 yards, and in a 14-game season.
Posted on 7/14/18 at 8:42 pm to FightinTigersDammit
Teams are still using his route combos from that Jets team.
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