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re: what ever happened to usc with the reggie bush thing?

Posted on 2/7/09 at 7:11 am to
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 7:11 am to
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That about sums it up!!! BTW Thin Lizzy!! Nice choice!!!!


I was wondering if you saw that. I thought you'd like!
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 7:12 am to
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I was wondering if you saw that. I thought you'd like!


Just saw it this mornin!!! Thanks!!!
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 9:41 am to
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Judge also ordered the parties to attend a settlement conference, and that is when the bubble is going to burst for people still hoping for the walls to come crashing down on usc


So working on a settlement to pay back the agent that paid you while you played college football makes it all okay. Got it! $C breaks the rules and should receive the death penalty on its football program but they get to keep all these records sealed.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:35 am to
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So working on a settlement to pay back the agent that paid you while you played college football makes it all okay. Got it! $C breaks the rules and should receive the death penalty on its football program but they get to keep all these records sealed.


Who said it was okay? WHo said Bush did what Lake said he did? Who said felon Lake is lying or not lying? We don't know. It's not SC keeping records sealed. It is Bush vs. Lake. I am sure SC wants it sealed, whether Bush is guilty or not. Any team, including LSU would want the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:37 am to
bush paid him off and made him sign a non-disclosure agreement

the NCAA's hands are tied
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:38 am to
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It looks like Shep Cooper & Christopher Strobel of the NCAA Committe on Infractions must have gotten a cut from $C not to put the trojans on probation.

they can't prove anything

that's the problem
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:45 am to
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WHo said Bush did what Lake said he did?

how many parties has reggie already settled with while forcing them to sign a NDS?

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It's not SC keeping records sealed. It is Bush vs. Lake.

and why would reggie want to keep these records sealed?

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Any team, including LSU would want the same.

obviously, but other teams have gotten hit hard for situations where money changed hands

now THIS situation is lighter in that it wasn't a USC booster who paid off bush, therefore at worst the real debate is the eligibility of reggie bush (and not punishing USC), but there is FAR too much smoke for anyone to believe Bush took $0
Posted by tigers
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:49 am to
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that figures. i have a friend whos mother works at destrehan high where mcnight came from and she says he took money from usc to commit.


Not much credibility here since you don't even have the correct high school. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good baseless rant.
Posted by tigers
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 10:52 am to
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$C breaks the rules and should receive the death penalty on its football program


Neither SC, nor its boosters, paid R. Bush. Not saying there shouldn't be some punishment here, but your hate of all things SC has clouded your perspective.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 11:06 am to
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how many parties has reggie already settled with while forcing them to sign a NDS?


1?

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and why would reggie want to keep these records sealed?


Don't know. It is standard procedure in any settlement

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obviously, but other teams have gotten hit hard for situations where money changed hands


Only where it was proven to have changed hands though.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 2:08 pm to
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they can't prove anything


The NCAA doesn't have to prove anything.
They never proved that Lester Earl received money, only his word, which he has now said he lied about because of pressure from the NCAA to do so.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 2:09 pm to
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Only where it was proven to have changed hands though.


The fact that his parents were living in a house and moved out should have sealed this for $C. Of course you make excuses for the dirtiest program in the country.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 2:10 pm to
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They never proved that Lester Earl received money, only his word,

that's proof. there is evidence to use to establish a likely set of events

there is no evidence for bush. the NCAA can't get the evidence it needs
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 2:14 pm to
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there is no evidence for bush. the NCAA can't get the evidence it needs


Hiding records is evidence enough for the NCAA. They've put teams on probation in the past for much less because they weren't cooperating. $C is behind Bush having those records sealed so $C is not cooperating.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 3:56 pm to
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The fact that his parents were living in a house and moved out should have sealed this for $C. Of course you make excuses for the dirtiest program in the country.


I am not making excuses for anyone. Where did I do that.

Lots of folks move out of houses and skip rent. That does not = USC breaking the rules. The NCAA needs much more. That's all I am saying
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 3:57 pm to
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Hiding records is evidence enough for the NCAA. They've put teams on probation in the past for much less because they weren't cooperating.

it's not USC, it's bush. BUSH is hiding evidence

that's the whole problem. USC (or their boosters) aren't involved with this situation

when earl got cash, it was from a booster. when rhomar got paid, it was by a booster.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 3:57 pm to
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$C is behind Bush having those records sealed so $C is not cooperating.


That is what you think and it may or may not be true. The NCAA is prolly a little less biased and is not going to go on a hunch.
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 4:31 pm to
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that's the whole problem. USC (or their boosters) aren't involved with this situation




Yeah, right. Just like $C wasn't involved in fixing the rape allegations on dirty Sanchez either.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 4:33 pm to
agent giving money is not close to USC/boosters giving money

agent giving money = loss of eligibility for the player and forfeiture of games
Posted by los angeles tiger
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Posted on 2/7/09 at 4:37 pm to
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agent giving money is not close to USC/boosters giving money


Do you realize Bama was put on probation in the 90's for Langham taking very little money from an agent and paying him back, before he played the next fall. Bush received a helluva lot more and it's being sealed. $C gets away with it just like ND did with their violations because the NCAA is a corrupt, mafia type organization that has its darling programs such as $C and ND.
This post was edited on 2/7/09 at 4:39 pm
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