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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:36 am to
Posted by theBeard
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:36 am to


adams a12 pro with nippon tour 120 modus 3 spine aligned hard stepped once D3 sw

I just want a change
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:44 am to
What exactly does the spining do and why aren't all shafts done? Too expensive to align them?

What do flighted shafts mean also?
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:45 am to
That's a nice set of sticks. What don't you like about them?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:47 am to
damn mother nature
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:48 am to
Damn weathermen and their false hope

60% my arse
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118228 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:53 am to
We can sit around Sherwood, drink beer, watch golf on t.v., and eat wings.


Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:55 am to
First, every golf shaft has a "spine", and that spine is stiffer than the rest of the circumference of the shaft. (Nobody should argue that the spine is not the stiffest part of the shaft, but proof can be seen when rotating a shaft on a frequency machine. You get a stiffer reading when the spine is oriented the direction the shaft is deflected.)

The theory of spine aligning is that the golf shaft will perform better if the shaft is aligned in the clubhead so that the spine is "downline" with the direction of the golf shaft (so the spine would be in the 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock position - also called the neutral position.)

Indeed it does seem to make sense that if the stiffer spine is in the 1 o'clock position within the shaft (or 2 o'clock, or 5 o'clock, or 7 o'clock, or 11 o'clock, etc.), then it is highly likely the shaft won't perform as well as if the spine is in that downline 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock neutral position.

It is interesting to clamp down a properly spine aligned club into a club vice, and pull down hard on the head, and release it. The clubhead moves rapidly back and forth in a reasonably straight path. Then try it with a club that is NOT properly spine aligned. The difference is amazing.... the shaft/clubhead bounces all over the place, in about 50 different directions. The shafted club with the properly aligned spine position moves in a much straighter path.

Rifle Tour Flighted shafts are very different than almost any shaft on the market. They are designed so that the kickpoint of the shaft is lowered as the shaft length increases to help hit long irons higher and short irons lower
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:56 am to
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What don't you like about them?


they are fine just want something different.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 6:57 am to
I was pretty sure I knew about the basics of spined shafts


I just don't know why they don't test them all before installing them in clubs

Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:01 am to
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I just don't know why they don't test them all before installing them in clubs


cost! OEM's try and produce items as low cost as possible. Weight is a big thing also. most maunfactures dont weight sort shaft either. They could all weigh different amounts. True temper dynamic gold shaft tour issue shafts are the only set that has these tight specs within .1 grams
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 7:02 am
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118228 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:03 am to
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True temper dynamic gold shaft tour issue shafts


Dang, what if they're not tour issue. Just plain ole' true temper dg?
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:05 am to
weights could be +/- 5 grams each.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:06 am to
I know it's cost

But it seems stupid to not make it assemble the components as accurately as possible when they spend so much money on r&d


Maybe the cost/benefit is just too low
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:07 am to
frick.. Another round washout today.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118228 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:08 am to
I grabbed a guy's Diahmana (sp?) Tity 909 yesterday that was 65g, and then my 910 at 72g. Can definitely feel the difference. Club heads are probably different weight, but it was noticeable.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:08 am to
frick that! We're playing!

Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:08 am to
Not playing after that biblical flood last night
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118228 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:10 am to
Miller Lite then?
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:10 am to
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But it seems stupid to not make it assemble the components as accurately as possible when they spend so much money on r&d


The money spent is on the tour players not the averge joe. When you buy a drive off the rack say from EW it might be stamped 9 but likely it 10-11 degrees. OEM's dont really care about you and I. They just want us to see the newest thing on tv and run out and buy it.
Posted by theBeard
Member since Jul 2011
6739 posts
Posted on 5/10/13 at 7:13 am to
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I grabbed a guy's Diahmana (sp?) Tity 909 yesterday that was 65g, and then my 910 at 72g.


that shitty part titleist uses these cheap made for shafts in clubs. They want you to pay the $256 upcharge to get the real thing.
This post was edited on 5/10/13 at 7:14 am
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