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Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:47 pm to 19thHole
I just had this ruling in a tournament last month.
If it is not certain that the wind caused the ball to move, the player is penalized one stroke and the ball is to be replaced to its original spot. If the wind or gravity moved the ball then there is no penalty and the ball is to be played where it stops (even if its closer to the hole).
If it is not certain that the wind caused the ball to move, the player is penalized one stroke and the ball is to be replaced to its original spot. If the wind or gravity moved the ball then there is no penalty and the ball is to be played where it stops (even if its closer to the hole).
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:54 pm to BRgetthenet
I gave it 
It also does not really matter if the club is grounded. If you address the ball and it moves - its a penalty and the ball needs to be replaced (unless it is certain that wind or gravity caused the movement)
It also does not really matter if the club is grounded. If you address the ball and it moves - its a penalty and the ball needs to be replaced (unless it is certain that wind or gravity caused the movement)
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:54 pm to The Stash
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If it is not certain that the wind caused the ball to move, the player is penalized one stroke and the ball is to be replaced to its original spot. If the wind or gravity moved the ball then there is no penalty and the ball is to be played where it stops (even if its closer to the hole).
the two parts in bold seem to contradict one another...I honestly thought it should have been a penalty in one of the two cases for sure...but the rest of the group was convinced no penalty regardless
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:55 pm to The Stash
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If you address the ball and it moves
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or gravity
I think it is the gravity part that gets me...
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:56 pm to 19thHole
what if the ball moves into your putter while you are addressing it?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:57 pm to The Stash
So if you ground it, and you're certain it's the wind that moved it, play on/no harm no foul?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:58 pm to BRgetthenet
Grounding it has no bearing on anything outside of a hazard
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:59 pm to 19thHole
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the two parts in bold seem to contradict one another
How?? If the wind moves the ball it's no penalty and the ball plays as it lies. Any other time, its a stroke and the ball needs to be replaced.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:59 pm to BRgetthenet
Right.
But in my opinion, guys were using the wind as an excuse and I am uncertain as to whether it had a factor in either case
I guess I should have spoken up, but generally you should leave that to the player right?
But in my opinion, guys were using the wind as an excuse and I am uncertain as to whether it had a factor in either case
I guess I should have spoken up, but generally you should leave that to the player right?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:59 pm to The Stash
The first part of the statement you only mention wind
Then you say wind OR gravity
That's what he meant by contradictory I believe
Then you say wind OR gravity
That's what he meant by contradictory I believe
Posted on 5/13/14 at 1:59 pm to The Stash
unless gravity??
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:01 pm to 19thHole
IMO, if you don't touch the ball at address and it still moves, you shouldn't be penalized
That would be completely unfair and just unlucky
That would be completely unfair and just unlucky
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:01 pm to Croacka
If you put the putter behind the ball, and don't set it on the ground, that's address? What if you're a foot behind it looking at the line thinking about the putter's path through impact? Was that addressing the ball?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:03 pm to 19thHole
Yeah. Can't lie to yourself. If they cheated, and beat you, they know they didn't beat you.
Like ya said, gentlemen's game.
Like ya said, gentlemen's game.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:03 pm to BRgetthenet
What's all the this golf talk about?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:04 pm to KingRanch
Wanna just go back to Nitro and deadlift?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:05 pm to BRgetthenet
Yes
Nitro
Smash
Party
Nitro
Smash
Party
Posted on 5/13/14 at 2:06 pm to KingRanch
:boobs:
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