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re: WaPo: "LeBron James is the clear MVP of the playoffs"

Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:43 pm to
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:43 pm to
It was a ten point game when LeBron left the game and a ten point game at half so yeah Kyrie held it together pretty well. Eight minutes into the third LeBron had scored 9 in the quarter and Kyrie 7 and the game was tied. I don't really understand why people feel the need to embellish things to make it seem as if LeBron was a no show or something. Just keep talking about game 3 if you're that desperate to have something to criticize him over.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 6:44 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:46 pm to
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Lebron went to the bench with four fouls and his team down double digits. You bet your arse Kyrie bailed him out.
LeBron went to the bench down 10 points and then to the half still down 10.

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Lebron looked lost before Kyrie saved the game.
Funny how it's always LeBron being bailed out, I've never in my life heard that argument for the other greats. They just made their teammates better, but Lebron's teammates bail him out.

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Let's not pretend that last nights win wasn't all about Kyrie
You're probably right, which not only shows how great Kyrie was but also underscores how great LeBron is. He's the only player maybe ever who goes for 34/6/5, and and,it's a complete afterthought. Basically because that's below his averages over the past 15 playoff games.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:54 pm to
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nny how it's always LeBron being bailed out, I've never in my life heard that argument for the other greats. They just made their teammates better, but Lebron's teammates bail him out.

Without Kyrie in the third, the series would be 2-2 and headed to the C's.
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He's the only player maybe ever who goes for 34/6/5, and and,it's a complete afterthought

Hyperbole much? Lot of duos have played with one not benefitting from the press despite playing great games. Lebron scored a dozen in the fourth while the Cavs were rolling and the media were still goo goo eyed over Kyrie. His overall stats did become lost.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 6:58 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 6:57 pm to
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Eight minutes into the third LeBron had scored 9 in the quarter and Kyrie 7 and the game was tied

Lol...and what happened the rest of the third quarter?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:14 pm to
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Without Kyrie in the third, the series would be 2-2 and headed to the C's.

So like every other great who has ever lived, they needed a little help from their teammates from time to time.

Got it, very enlightening.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:22 pm to
I love how you go from "he did more than you think!" to "But MJ and the other greats needed help too!"
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So like every other great who has ever lived, they needed a little help from their teammates from time to time.

Lebron knows this better than anyone. Hence why he is playing with Kyrie and Love now or when he played with Wade, Bosh, Allen, and Haslem in Miami...

This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:24 pm to
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I love how you go from "he did more than you think!"
He did, 34/6/5 on like 55% shooting. That's a stat line only a small handful of players do each playoffs, ho hum.

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to "But MJ and the other greats needed help too!"
ALso true.

What's your point?

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Lebron knows this better than anyone. Hence why he is playing with Kyrie and Love now or when he played with Wade, Bosh, Allen, and Haslem in Miami...
Does he? A guy who played with another top 50 all time great who never won anything without that player doesn't know that?

That nostalgia is a helluva drug!!!
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:30 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Does he? A guy who played with another top 50 all time great who never won anything without that player doesn't know that?

Yeah, I don't remember him calling up Bird asking him to play on the same team. Maybe you should link it.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Yeah
So he does? Thanks for contradicting your previous post and now agreeing with me.

But let me guess, MJ would have turned Ilgauskus into Pippen, right? If not, maybe Mo Williams was the next Pippen if he played w/MJ?
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:33 pm
Posted by imraged
Member since Nov 2010
2343 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:37 pm to
Scoring 9 points in a quarter to help come back from a ten point deficit doesn't exactly jive with

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Lebron looked lost before Kyrie saved the game.


On top of that he scored 14 in the fourth to put the game away as the Celtics pulled within 6 a couple of times. Is he supposed to score every point?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:43 pm to
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On to
4th quarter only matters when LeBron doesn't play well apparently.

Imagine if Kyrie had 14 to Lebron's 4 in a 4th quarter...


The goalposts constantly move.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:44 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:43 pm to
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On top of that he scored 14 in the fourth to put the game away as the Celtics pulled within 6 a couple of times
Kyrie is the only reason why he could put the game away and then you ask
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Is he supposed to score every point?


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Scoring 9 points in a quarter to help come back from a ten point deficit doesn't exactly jive with

Doesn't contradict it either
Posted by ThePTExperience1969
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Apr 2016
13360 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:44 pm to
Apparently he is so to satisfy all the LeBron detractors, then they'll subsequently nitpick other elements of his statline bc that's how their simpleton minds work. Anything to maintain the myth they've been conditioned to believe without conducting any research like informed people.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:47 pm to
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4th quarter only matters when LeBron doesn't play well apparently. Imagine if Kyrie had 14 to Lebron's 4 in a 4th quarter... The goalposts constantly move.

It was Lebron's camp offering up the excuses of sickness. I'm just sipping the tea while you're squirming.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:48 pm to
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Kyrie is the only reason why he could put the game away and then you ask

And LeBron is the reason the game was put away in a game that, as you say, had nothing to do with him.

Hopefully the lightbulb is going off in your head now about my comment about how we take Lebron's greatness for granted. When he can score 14 in the 4th to put a game away, and the game, as you said, had nothing to do with that, that's when you know how great he is.

After that line of comments, I'm guessing you'll see that point now, right?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:48 pm to
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It was Lebron's camp offering up the excuses of sickness. I'm just sipping the tea while you're squirming.

What are you talking about?

You're saying Kobe is more clutch than LeBron, so chances are, you're spilling more tea on yourself than getting in your mouth.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:49 pm to
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But let me guess, MJ would have turned Ilgauskus into Pippen, right? If not, maybe Mo Williams was the next Pippen if he played w/MJ?

Those positions dont even match up... You're not very good at this.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110709 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:54 pm to
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Those positions dont even match up... You're not very good at this.
Move that goalpost, keep moving it!!


Apparently you don't know who Lebron's 2nd best players were over the years. You seem to not know a lot on this subject for spouting so many opinions. Very strange.

If you don't have the ability to compare MJ's best teammate over a given time(because they didn't play the same position) to Lebron's in the context of your irrelevant MJ playing with Bird line, that says a lot about your ability to grasp and keep up with this conversation.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 7:55 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36312 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:56 pm to
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What are you talking about?

Well it was RJ that said his performance was due to sickness...
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You're saying Kobe is more clutch than LeBron

Umm yeah.... Are you a crack baby by chance?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 7:57 pm to
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You're saying Kobe is more clutch than LeBron


I'm still completely flabbergasted by that assertion, I won't lie
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