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re: Wade = Finals MVP?
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:00 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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the entire playoffs lebron has led the team, so i don't think you can call him robin
Don't bother Slow.
Unknownkinght is on freaking record on this board as saying Lebron DEFERRED in the clutch in the entire Chicago series.
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Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:14 am to shel311
havent read entire thread but my feeling so far is this
Lebron still best player in league but D-Wade is Finals MVP and LBJ seems to be content with letting him be the closer and thats not a bad thing just my experience of the games
Lebron still best player in league but D-Wade is Finals MVP and LBJ seems to be content with letting him be the closer and thats not a bad thing just my experience of the games
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:35 am to shel311
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Unknownkinght is on freaking record on this board as saying Lebron DEFERRED in the clutch in the entire Chicago series
Not an entirely foreign take,Simmons and Bucher also have that opinion. Simmons also thinks LeBron is best player in the game too.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:40 am to RonBurgundy
Honest question. How many Bulls championships can u say MJ wasn't the best player/NBA Finals MVP?
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:43 am to RonBurgundy
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Not an entirely foreign take,Simmons and Bucher also have that opinion.
Link? I find it difficult to believe that anyone who actually watched those games thought Lebron deferred, because it's factually incorrect. It's not a matter of opinion. We know who took and made the shots at the end of those games.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:45 am to TulaneTigerFan
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Link?
go listen to the last podcast they did together.
ETA:Bucher/Simmons solo podcast
This post was edited on 6/6/11 at 12:48 am
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:46 am to RonBurgundy
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Not an entirely foreign take,Simmons and Bucher also have that opinion. Simmons also thinks LeBron is best player in the game too.
Are we talking about the same Chicago series for Bucher/Simmons?
Lebron just about literally took EVERY shot in the final minutes of the close CHI games, and made almost all of em as well.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:47 am to RonBurgundy
I did, and I don't recall either of them saying that. Bucher went on record with his ridiculous take on Rose being the best player in the NBA, but I don't remember them criticizing Lebron for deferring in that series. I'm almost positive they didn't.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:47 am to theunknownknight
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Lebron = Robin?
Lebron ain't even Robin...He is Paul Schaffer!
Did you see how quick he passed the ball back to D-Wade in the last minute.
Dwade=BJ Lebron=The Bear
This would explain why Dwade didn't go to Cleveland instead of BronBron going to Miami.
This post was edited on 6/6/11 at 12:49 am
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:48 am to LSUPHILLY72
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Lebron ain't even Robin...He is Paul Schaffer!
Did you see how quick he passed the ball back to D-Wade in the last minute.
Dwade=BJ Lebron=The Bear
You didn't catch the previous 2 series or game 2, i take it?
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:50 am to shel311
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You didn't catch the previous 2 series or game 2, i take it?
You didn't catch the Title of this thread, I take it?
Wade=Finals MVP
Lebron=Opening round MVP
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:53 am to shel311
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or game 2
The game where they blew a 15 point lead in the last few minutes...mainly because of LeBron's ill advised 3 pointers?
Only Kobe gets credit for games his team lost in consideration for MVP
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:53 am to LSUPHILLY72
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You didn't catch the Title of this thread, I take it?
Wade=Finals MVP
Lebron=Opening round MVP
Then your post is still pretty funny and incorrect, but carry on.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 12:59 am to shel311
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Then your post is still pretty funny and incorrect, but carry on.
How?
The title is: Wade = Finals MVP?
You think LeBron has outplayed Wade in the first 3 games of the finals?
You might no more than me...because Gasol outplayed the Rapist last year...yet he still got MVP.
But after 3 games...Wade is the MVP.
AND I HATE WADE...for what it is worth! Not the person the player...if I play for Dallas...Wade would lose a tooth.
This post was edited on 6/6/11 at 1:01 am
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:00 am to LSUPHILLY72
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You think LeBron has outplayed Wade in the first 3 games of the finals?
No, but read what you said, not even in the same ballpark as just saying "wade is the MVP" lol
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:03 am to shel311
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No, but read what you said, not even in the same ballpark as just saying "wade is the MVP" lol
I know what I said...and I was speaking of the 3 games in the finals.
You brought up other... inadmissible games.
DWade has out played LeBron in my opinion. So has Dirk.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:22 am to TulaneTigerFan
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I'm almost positive they didn't.
Listen more closely...check about 24 mins in to their podcast.Their take is that LeBron is great but defers to Wade in the clutch.It wasn't criticizing LeBron more stating the fact that Wade is the Heat's crunch time guy(i.e. OT game)
Since Wade seems to be recovering from being hurt or banged up or whatever you call it, he has re-emerged as the Heat's main guy(in the clutch).That's also the advantage of LeBron being LeBron.He is the best athlete on the planet right now. No one in the NFL*,MLB(
) MMA,EPL or decathlon athlete can compete with James DNA.Basketball skills wise and of course basketball IQ,Wade has the advantage. *Maybe AD,Gates or Vick
This post was edited on 6/6/11 at 1:28 am
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:27 am to RonBurgundy
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Listen more closely...check about 24 mins in to their podcast.Their take is that LeBron is great but defers to Wade in the clutch
But they specifically said they felt that way for the chicago series also? Not just one spot in the series, but the entire series?
That's nuts. I don't see how anyone can think that, but that's just me.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:35 am to shel311
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But they specifically said they felt that way for the chicago series also? Not just one spot in the series, but the entire series?
It's insinuated that this is the case for the Heat,as in "of course Wade is the the go to guy"
They also talk about for OKC to make the jump,that Westbrook has to emerge as the Alpha.
Now with the Chicago series fresh in your mind and how poorly Wade shot in that series,is possible that you see more into James "dominance"? because what I see is that Wade is the guy when a play needs to be made.Now will Wade and his reckless style be able to keep it up for 82+?Given his injury history,you can't say that he'll be able to.Having said that when he is on and 100% even LeBron gets out his way.That is something that can't be ignored.
Posted on 6/6/11 at 1:57 am to RonBurgundy
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Now with the Chicago series fresh in your mind and how poorly Wade shot in that series,is possible that you see more into James "dominance"? because what I see is that Wade is the guy when a play needs to be made
First, I'm just glad you seem to be the only one basically who can discuss this rationally lol.
As for my answer, I'll just paste from a post I made after the Chicago series:
Lebron had:
- 9 points in the final 4:28 of game 2.
- 10 points including 8 points in the final 5:07 of game 3.
- 12 points in the 4th quarter of game 5, including 8 points in the final 2:06.
I think it's pretty clear the ball was in Lebron's hands on most, to nearly all possessions late in the Chicago series(at least in those 3 games there.)
This post was edited on 6/6/11 at 1:58 am
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