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re: VIDEO: Tony Stewart hits opposing driver; driver has died according to reports
Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:48 pm to jorconalx
Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:48 pm to jorconalx
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the weren't even close to being the same thing not even "almost", but whatever there are some really thick people in this world
Tony Stewart was knocked out of the race and returned to the track, under caution, and approached a moving vehicle. You don't see ANY similarities? And I'm dense?
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Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:55 pm to ctiger69
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Get a rope!!!
I'm not sure why you think I'm condemning Tony Stewart. I said in the post that I'm withholding judgement.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 5:59 pm to northshorebamaman
The two incidents are similar as you describe. But the difference between a stock car on a paved track and a sprint car on dirt track or two different things.
Smoke admitted what he did 15 plus years a go was dumb.
Many drivers have done dumb things on and off of the track. Emotions in racing are a large part of the sport. Most drivers will admit to doing something dumb like getting out of their car after a wreck and chasing after another driver. It doesn't make it OK. What happened last night looks like nothing more than a tragic accident.
Hopefully something good can come out of this tragedy with some possible safety rules being created. Many good things came out of the death death of Dale Sr.
Prayers for the family of Kevin Ward.
Smoke admitted what he did 15 plus years a go was dumb.
Many drivers have done dumb things on and off of the track. Emotions in racing are a large part of the sport. Most drivers will admit to doing something dumb like getting out of their car after a wreck and chasing after another driver. It doesn't make it OK. What happened last night looks like nothing more than a tragic accident.
Hopefully something good can come out of this tragedy with some possible safety rules being created. Many good things came out of the death death of Dale Sr.
Prayers for the family of Kevin Ward.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:02 pm to TigerFred
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The two incidents are similar as you describe. But the difference between a stock car on a paved track and a sprint car on dirt track or two different things.
Thank you. I wasn't making any kind of judgement. I just thought it was an interesting story. I have no opinion on his guilt or innocence. I haven't read the whole thread but I'm guessing there's some hypersensitive people in it.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:23 pm to northshorebamaman
Looks like the sheriff is concluding no "criminal intent" on Stewart's part at this point. They plan on doing a reconstruction of the incident and when that and the investigation is completed sit down with the district attorney and see what course of action, if any, will be taken. LINK
Edit: I think the translation would be that the sheriff doesn't think Stewart intentionally hit the other driver but a criminal investigation will be completed to submit to the DA to see whether any criminal charges are warranted.
Edit: I think the translation would be that the sheriff doesn't think Stewart intentionally hit the other driver but a criminal investigation will be completed to submit to the DA to see whether any criminal charges are warranted.
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:34 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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He would have hit him if he were directly in front of his car, like he was in front of Stewart's.
Ok not really understanding this.
From what I've read (not going to watch video) Ward was hit by the rear wheel of the vehicle but, "if he were directly in front of his car,like he was in front of Stewart's" than shouldn't he have been hit by Stewart's front wheel first, you know Newtons first law. (An object in motion continues in motion with the same speed and in the same direction unless acted upon by an unbalanced force) I really don't know how big a difference the stance is between the front and rear wheels are but it can't be that much.
In order for Ward to have been hit by the rear wheel but not by the front he would had to be moving forward very fast (really short wheelbase) unless of course Stewards car was acted upon by an unbalanced force ie: Steward turning the front wheels, accelerating, being hit by another vehicle etc. you know physics and all that shite.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:40 pm to Litigator
I just feel like he is getting the celeb treatment. If this were one of us we would either be in jail or out on bail.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:42 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
this situation reminds me of the movie flight except Denzel saved a bunch of people.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:42 pm to Vdrine
Sprint cars have wider rear than front...its easily possible to miss front and get hit by rear
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:44 pm to Litigator
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Looks like the sheriff is concluding no "criminal intent" on Stewart's part at this point. They plan on doing a reconstruction of the incident and when that and the investigation is completed sit down with the district attorney and see what course of action, if any, will be taken. LINK
Edit: I think the translation would be that the sheriff doesn't think Stewart intentionally hit the other driver but a criminal investigation will be completed to submit to the DA to see whether any criminal charges are warranted.
Sounds like a prudent course of action
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:45 pm to flyAU
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quote: Usually when you kill people and are convicted of a crime that lead to the death is someone, you become a murderer.
There I fixed it.
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Holy shite...
Sorry, I had to end my statement abruptly.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:45 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
quote:what the frick
I just feel like he is getting the celeb treatment. If this were one of us we would either be in jail or out on bail.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:46 pm to Vdrine
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In order for Ward to have been hit by the rear wheel but not by the front he would had to be moving forward very fast (really short wheelbase) unless of course Stewards car was acted upon by an unbalanced force ie: Steward turning the front wheels, accelerating, being hit by another vehicle etc. you know physics and all that shite
wider rear tires than the front
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:47 pm to jorconalx
I love how he thought he was out smarting the room but has no idea of the basic setup of a big factor in it...you know, the car. Lol
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:47 pm to BillyBobfan24_7
I just feel like there are some really dumb people who have no idea what they are talking about.
If it was any other racer, that racer would be treated the same way as Smoke.
If it was any other racer, that racer would be treated the same way as Smoke.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:50 pm to monsterballads
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I don't think tony meant to hurt him. Anyone objective would agree.
I do however think he could have avoided getting that close to him.
What's crazy is you see plain as day ward attempt to jump out of the way at the last minute. It appears that Stewart veered a little more to the right at the last second to spook him or something and didn't realize just how close ward was.
Tragic event.
I didn't read through the thread because I know better, but this is about as accurate as it gets.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:53 pm to TigerFred
Earlier today explaining the cool down lap needed by sprimt cars because of the gears was even being met with "defending ts".
The experts have it all figured out but know nothing about the cars
The experts have it all figured out but know nothing about the cars
This post was edited on 8/10/14 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:54 pm to tigerpimpbot
Agreed. Of course they are privy to more information than we have right now but it seems correct to me to conduct a thorough investigation which would likely include an autopsy, the reconstruction and other things yet to be done and complete a case file to submit to the DA so that he/she can make the call. I really think that is what everyone on all sides would want anyway.
Posted on 8/10/14 at 6:58 pm to fightingtiger2335
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Earlier today explaining the cool down lap needed by sprimt cars because of the gears was even being met with "defending ts".
Its a tragedy and prayer to the Ward family. But, the hot head in this case was Ward and not TS
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