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re: UFC FN 61 - Frank Mir vs. Bigfoot Silva - Sunday (2/22)

Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:29 pm to
And that was right after he won the owgp, so you can't use the "out of his prime" excuse.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:36 pm to
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CroCop looked slow and old in the UFC. All he would do is circle, throw the occasional kick, if he got in close he just push away instead of punching and then ultimately get KOd. He was offering little to no offense in his fights. He was extremely passive and unengaging.



A lot of people think Pride was fake and seeing how Cro-Cop, Wanderlei and Fedor performed when they left I am not so sure they were wrong.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 2:56 pm to
Uh oh, you've done it now.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:02 pm to
Yeah there was some fixing. Obviously takada and Coleman was one fix. Yakuza does whatever they want. Personally I think Cro cop never felt comfortable in the octagon. The gonzaga fight made him really hesitant. I'm not sure if he used peds or not. But he never really made the best effort to train with people to push him like he should have when he signed with the UFC. Too many variables and not one specific reason
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:11 pm to
Fedor goes 15-0 in Pride and then 1-3 in Strikeforce!
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:18 pm to
Well to be fair he did drop werdum quickly. He knew better than to engage him on the ground. Didn't he knockdown hendo as well?
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:21 pm to
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Well to be fair he did drop werdum quickly. He knew better than to engage him on the ground. Didn't he knockdown hendo as well?



I think he lost both of those in the first round
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:30 pm to
I think the UFC is fake because after getting subbed in his last 2 pride fights Anderson Silva went on to become the greatest champion in UFC history
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:37 pm to
Yeah he did. I think the ref stopped the Bigfoot fight in between rounds
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:40 pm to
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I think the UFC is fake because after getting subbed in his last 2 pride fights Anderson Silva went on to become the greatest champion in UFC history

Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:43 pm to
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I think the UFC is fake because after getting subbed in his last 2 pride fights Anderson Silva went on to become the greatest champion in UFC history
haha.

Upvoted
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:44 pm to
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I think the UFC is fake because after getting subbed in his last 2 pride fights Anderson Silva went on to become the greatest champion in UFC history



Actually he took dives in Pride, everyone knows that.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:44 pm to
A relative unknown from Brazil fighting Japanese guys in a Japanese promotion controlled by the Yakuza. Yep, nothing fishy there.
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:45 pm to
My favorite Anderson fight was against Lee Murray because well it was against Lee Murray, probably the baddest dude to ever live.
Posted by Korin
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:46 pm to
I've never understood the Lee Murray worship on Sherdog.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:49 pm to
Lee Murray is a gangsta. Aren't they making a movie about his life, or a documentary?

And I do think anderson took a dive in those 2 losses.

And I also think Fedor was the best fighter in Pride as well. He beats Hendo 8/10 times, just got caught with a lucky punch after badly rocking Hendo. He also beats that form of Werdum 8/10 times as well. Bigfoot was just too big and roided.
Posted by lsucoonass
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:49 pm to
He wasn't that great. Awesome ko by the spider. I think Murray is in some jail cell
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:50 pm to
Ive never seen them talk about him but the dude was fascinating. Went the difference with Anderson Silva, undefeated in the UFC, knocked out Tito in a barfight, committed the largest cash robbery EVER and the list goes on and on. There are some cool documentaries about him, dude is a straight up criminal!
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:52 pm to
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He wasn't that great. Awesome ko by the spider


Silva did not KO Murray bro....

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Lee Murray is a gangsta. Aren't they making a movie about his life, or a documentary?



They have a few

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And I do think anderson took a dive in those 2 losses.



is normal

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And I also think Fedor was the best fighter in Pride as well. He beats Hendo 8/10 times, just got caught with a lucky punch after badly rocking Hendo. He also beats that form of Werdum 8/10 times as well. Bigfoot was just too big and roided.


Same, I was joking about his fights being fixed....at least most of them.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 1/20/15 at 3:53 pm to
Has the Tito thing been confirmed?
And I don't find anything fascinating about a guy who held up women and children with a machine gun.
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