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re: UFC 128: Shogun vs. Jones

Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:38 am to
Posted by Acreboy
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:38 am to
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He has more knockout power than jones,
= at best
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:38 am to
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long arms=easy armbar


maybe on some stiff but not a guy as athletic as Jones
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:38 am to
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Anderson might be able to fight with jones on the feet but we've never seen anderson fight a guy with a longer reach then him

Forrest griffin, who has very long arms.

And as far as subs go, Anderson has the length to pull a sub on jones. He is a much better ground fighter than rua and rua had plenty of opportunities.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:38 am to
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How could you possibly say that a size advantage gave Jones the victory? Size doesn't give you incredibly precise striking, good takedowns, submission defense, etc.

Yeah, dude may be a freak but he knows what to do with it and even when he got in trouble he didn't stay in it long. I mean Struve sp? is a freak in heavyweight but he got pummeled by Roy Nelson who was at a distinct height/ reach disadvantage. And I know Struve is also nowhere near the athlete Jones is but that comes from hard work can't knock a guy for that.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:40 am to
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Forrest griffin, who has very long arms.

And as far as subs go, Anderson has the length to pull a sub on jones. He is a much better ground fighter than rua and rua had plenty of opportunities.

actually I think anderson had a 1 or 2 inch reach advantage in that fight.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:41 am to
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= at best

James Irvin? Forrest griffin? Leben? All guys he dropped. Bones has not dropped one fighter in the UFC due to punches. I'm not saying he can't, but silva has a history of knockdowns and kos.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:41 am to
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James Irvin? Forrest griffin? Leben? All guys he dropped. Bones has not dropped one fighter in the UFC due to punches. I'm not saying he can't, but silva has a history of knockdowns and kos.

he hasn't had to.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:42 am to
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actually I think anderson had a 1 or 2 inch reach advantage in that fight.

Looking at it they were both at 77.
Posted by xyz
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:42 am to
The only thing left for some of you to do is go down to Jones' gym and suck his dick. The guy was impressive tonight but to all of a sudden show this much praise and proclaim him better than guys like Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, etc is the most retarded thing I have ever seen. I'll wait and see how he defends the title before I proclaim him the greatest light heavyweight to step foot into a octagon.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:43 am to
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he hasn't had to.

Had plenty of chances in the Bonnar fight.
This post was edited on 3/20/11 at 12:44 am
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12782 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:43 am to
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maybe on some stiff but not a guy as athletic as Jones


happens all the time. anyone can get caught
Posted by lsutigertalk
At Death Valley
Member since Apr 2004
5576 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:43 am to
Silva vs Jones would be a Jones win in my opinion. Silva was destroyed by Sonnen till he pulled out a triangle choke. Jones' wresting is MUCH better than Sonnen in my opinion. I think it would be an amazing fight.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70556 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:44 am to
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Leben? Forrest griffin?
James Irvin?


like comparing dog shite to ice cream, Jones would absolutely wreck any of these guys
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12782 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:45 am to
didn't see the fight. was rua out of shape and winded by first round?
Posted by tigerwoods
Hillman
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:45 am to
jones is a special talent. rare combo of power speed and athleticism and he's a damn good young martial artist. He's going to be champ for a long time.
Posted by lsu223
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:46 am to
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than guys like Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, etc is the most retarded thing I have ever seen


Did you see Shogun's last fight against Machida??
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:46 am to
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Silva vs Jones would be a Jones win in my opinion. Silva was destroyed by Sonnen till he pulled out a triangle choke. Jones' wresting is MUCH better than Sonnen in my opinion. I think it would be an amazing fight.


His wrestling might not be as crisp as sonnens but what makes him so devastating is his ground and pound. The way he can drive his elbows into people is nasty
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70556 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:46 am to
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The only thing left for some of you to do is go down to Jones' gym and suck his dick. The guy was impressive tonight but to all of a sudden show this much praise and proclaim him better than guys like Anderson Silva, Lyoto Machida, etc is the most retarded thing I have ever seen. I'll wait and see how he defends the title before I proclaim him the greatest light heavyweight to step foot into a octagon.


this coming from the guy who though Schaub barely scraped CC earlier
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:46 am to
missed the fight but just saw the gifs

holy frick, that was brutal

that must've been god's punishment for rampage v. shogun
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 3/20/11 at 12:47 am to
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like comparing dog shite to ice cream, Jones would absolutely wreck any of these guys

And anderson would embarrass Stephen bonner, Jake obrein, Matt hammill, and Vera. That's not the point. The point is jones has 0 punch knockdowns or kos. I'm not even saying he can't. All I'm saying is silva has better punching power.
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