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Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 2/9/11 at 6:01 pm to
why don't guys like he and Griffen fight heavyweight if they walk around at 225-250? i'd imagine cutting weight hurts their conditioning.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37580 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:19 pm to
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Rampage is at 250 right now..


Rampage is fighting Rashad again in May.

BTW, sweet jacket

Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15371 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 9:22 pm to
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Front Kick KO: Cory Tait vs. Dino Gambatesa


Did u see this on that link u posted? Apparently Segal has been busy
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13633 posts
Posted on 2/9/11 at 10:40 pm to
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why don't guys like he and Griffen fight heavyweight if they walk around at 225-250? i'd imagine cutting weight hurts their conditioning.


Because that is a fat and out of shape 250

In fight shape when those guys are around 225 it's not a hard cut to 205 and guy like carwin and Brock are in fight shape at 260

They would be giving up 40 pounds, which is definitely significant, to those guys
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12795 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 9:34 am to
I think Page wanted another shot at Evans if you ask me. That last fight Page had vs Rua was brutal.
Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
Member since Dec 2009
32811 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 10:09 am to
I still cannot understand how Page didn't finish off Rashad in their fight. I'm sure he wonders the same when watching the tape....

Regardless, how the hell can you turn down a title fight?? (if that's true)
Posted by Geauxing for 3
TX Tiger
Member since Mar 2008
2156 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 10:56 am to
This is the second time page has been accused of ducking opponents. He's getting soft like mush. The sport has evolved and he hasn't. The guy used to be a freak athlete and he has looked pretty stiff out there the past few times. I don't know if it's nerves or old age but something ain't right with page.
Posted by joey barton
Member since Feb 2011
11468 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 11:16 am to
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Regardless, how the hell can you turn down a title fight?? (if that's true)


as it has been mentioned once or twice before, rampage would have six weeks to get into fighting shape and then cut. he balloons in weight between fights. i doubt that it would have even been a title fight.
Posted by DirklasDaDirk
St. Martin Parish
Member since Dec 2010
1498 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 12:32 pm to
I like how not wanting to cut 45 lbs in four weeks is now considered ducking.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12795 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 12:34 pm to
I agree. He could prolly make weight but it would be brutal on him.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15371 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 8:15 pm to
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That last fight Page had vs Rua was brutal.


You can say the same thing about Wandy vs. Page also and we see how that ended.

Plus soccer kicks are not allowed in UFC
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15371 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 8:24 pm to
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I like how not wanting to cut 45 lbs in four weeks is now considered ducking.


yea and he knows if he loses he could drop damn near out of the top 10 in the UFC. It would put him at 2 loses in his last three fights.

With a loss to Shogun he would fall below these guys in no particular order

Shogun,
Evans,
Jones,
Bader,
Machida,
Griffin,
Thiago Silva,
Lil Nog,
Rampage
Posted by Geauxing for 3
TX Tiger
Member since Mar 2008
2156 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 8:45 pm to
If I make a living off fighting at a certain weight than yes I call it ducking when you let yourself get that out of shape that you are 45 lbs over. I could understand 15 or 20 lbs but 45? Guys get injured all the time and he was the #2 behind Evans so he should have been smarter than that
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13633 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 8:57 pm to
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If I make a living off fighting at a certain weight than yes I call it ducking


You are in the minority then and those in the business don't consider it ducking, or even unusual to fluctuate in weight like that

Also, being 250 doesn't put him 45 over his fight weight, it puts him 45 over his weight class. Huge difference.

250 puts him 25 over his fight weight, which happens at that class quite often
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15371 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 9:07 pm to
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If I make a living off fighting at a certain weight than yes I call it ducking when you let yourself get that out of shape that you are 45 lbs over.


It would be one thing if he was some noob and this was his only chance to make it in the UFC. He's got time to do it right and move on.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81416 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Shogun,
Evans,
Jones,
Bader,
Machida,
Griffin,
Thiago Silva,
Lil Nog,


Rampage could die in the cage and still be ahead of Lil Nog. He is bad judging away from losing 2 in a row to Bader and Jason Brilz.
Posted by SmackDaniels
Gulf Breeze, FL
Member since Mar 2007
15371 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 9:50 pm to
Spike TV had the replay the other day of Lil Nog/Brilz.

Brilliant marketing move by the UFC/Spike to reshow that piece of shite. Hey everyone here's some redflags in case you were wondering if boxing is the only corrupt combat sport. Next we have a great bout between Nam Phan vs. Leonard Garcia.
This post was edited on 2/10/11 at 9:51 pm
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13633 posts
Posted on 2/10/11 at 10:48 pm to
Dana is openly critical of judging and certain referees. Problem is, he doesn't hire the judges or the refs. He has no say in who works the fights and he has no authority to tell them anything.
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12795 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 8:30 am to
Rua/Jones makes me tingle a little bit (no homo)
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12795 posts
Posted on 2/11/11 at 8:38 am to
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