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Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:36 pm to NorthGAVol
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:36 pm to NorthGAVol
In the last image, the ball is hitting the ground and comes out. Therefore, it is an incomplete pass. He must maintain possession. Doesn't matter if his elbow, forearm, knee, or any other body part hit first.
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Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:37 pm to NorthGAVol
Thank you for the link. This is the absolute best still shot I could get from that video.
Clearly? That may be the worst angle possible to tell if the ball actually hits.
Look, I'm not being difficult for shits and giggles. I'm glad the Packers won and I think they would have won regardless. My issue is with the replay process and indisputable evidence, of which I haven't seen any posted.
I don't want referees guessing if a ball hits the ground based on the way it reacts. Did the ball hit the ground? Probably, but if the link you posted is the best one they had, then that is bullshite. They let the Green Bay catch stand at the end of the half when it OBVIOUSLY hit the turf - you could see the ball touching the ground. I still don't see anything that is indisputable in these videos.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:38 pm to tigerskin
Was Blandino or anyone from NFL office involved in reviewing challenge?
I cannot remember what they implemented for this season after talking about involving the NFL office.
I cannot remember what they implemented for this season after talking about involving the NFL office.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:40 pm to slackster
This reminds me of the Jimmy Graham TD review in the Saints/Falcons game. Was it obvious to everyone with any logic that the ball crossed the plane? Yes. Was there indisputable video evidence? No.
Bottom line, I cannot understand how they felt 100% sure and were able to overturn this call, especially considering all of the assumptions they had to make.
Bottom line, I cannot understand how they felt 100% sure and were able to overturn this call, especially considering all of the assumptions they had to make.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:44 pm to slackster
They clearly saw the ball hit the ground. They applied the rules.
This is under Rule 8 Completed orIntercepted Pass. They applied the rule correctly.
quote:
Item 1: Player Going to the Ground. If a player goes to the ground in the act of catching a pass (with or without contact by an opponent), he must maintain control of the ball throughout the process of contacting the ground, whether in the field of play or the end zone. If he loses control of the ball, and the ball touches the ground before he regains control,
the pass is incomplete. If he regains control prior to the ball touching the ground, the pass is complete.
This is under Rule 8 Completed orIntercepted Pass. They applied the rule correctly.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:45 pm to iwasthere
quote:
Article 3 Completed or Intercepted Pass.
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A
forward
pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by
the defense) if a player, who is inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms p
rior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or wi
th any part of his body other than his hands
; and
(c) maintains control of the ball long enough, after
(a) and (b) have been fulfilled, to enable him to
perform any act common to the game (i.e., maintaining
control long enough to pitch it, pass it,
advance with it, or avoid or ward off an opponent, etc
.).
Note 1: It is not necessary that he commit such an a
ct, provided that he maintains control of the ball l
ong
enough to do so.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:47 pm to ATLsuTiger
:rotflmao: Check my post just above. When going to the ground during the act of the catch, the football move doesn't apply.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:48 pm to ATLsuTiger
Conflicting rules. Gotta love the NFL 
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:48 pm to ATLsuTiger
I still just don't understand how some of y'all are so adamant and sure that it was a catch
I just...I don't know. Y'all just see it differently, I guess. I've watched that video 100 times this morning and I still can't see where he completed the catch.
I just...I don't know. Y'all just see it differently, I guess. I've watched that video 100 times this morning and I still can't see where he completed the catch.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:49 pm to Salmon
Would you agree that it is disputable?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:50 pm to BayouBengals03
oh no doubt, and I completely get your argument
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:50 pm to iwasthere
quote:
Check my post just above. When going to the ground during the act of the catch, the football move doesn't apply.
Where does it say that?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:51 pm to Salmon
quote:
Y'all just see it differently, I guess. I've watched that video 100 times this morning and I still can't see where he completed the catch.
Because using common sense, why else would he have moved the ball from both hands into one? Why would he have purposely made the catch harder on himself?
He (boneheadedly) tried to get the ball to the endzone before making a (by current NFL rules) catch.
This post was edited on 1/12/15 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:52 pm to Salmon
That is where I just don't understand the reversal.
The replay officials had to do some assuming, as well. Just like everyone in this thread.
I just don't think "assuming" or "guessing" is in their job description.
The replay officials had to do some assuming, as well. Just like everyone in this thread.
I just don't think "assuming" or "guessing" is in their job description.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:52 pm to BayouBengals03
It doesn't mention a football move at all in the item talking about when the player is going to the ground during the act of the catch. So, a football move doesn't apply.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:53 pm to Eighteen
quote:
Because using common sense, why else would he have moved the ball from both hands into one? Why would he have purposely made the catch harder on himself?
its a pretty common reaction to put your hands down to brace yourself when you fall
quote:
He (boneheadedly) tried to make get the ball to the endzone before making a (by current NFL rules) catch.
so you agree he didn't make the catch..?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:53 pm to BayouBengals03
Please point out what they assumed?
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:53 pm to iwasthere
quote:
In the last image, the ball is hitting the ground and comes out. Therefore, it is an incomplete pass. He must maintain possession. Doesn't matter if his elbow, forearm, knee, or any other body part hit first.
You're absolutely right, if he were laying out to make a catch rather than that what actually happened.
Posted on 1/12/15 at 1:54 pm to BayouBengals03
quote:
Conflicting rules. Gotta love the NFL
it's crazy how they outsmart themselves intstead of making things easier for everyone. This and the "tuck" rule are freaking ridiculous rules.
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