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Posted on 3/18/13 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 12:56 pm to
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Rich Cimini?@RichCimini
Formers Chargers OLB Antwan Barnes tweets that he will sign with the #Jets.


They were lowballing when he left, so hopefully it's the same deal. Need all the passrush they can get...
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 1:18 pm to
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Need all the passrush they can get...
Isn't Shaun Phillips still out there as a free agent? He could be a pretty good pick-up for the Jets' 34 defense. He had 9.5 sacks last year for the SD Chargers, and he's been pretty consistent through his career (skip his down year in 2011). I've read where he, John Abraham, Dwight Freeney, and Osi Umanyiroa are on the Broncos' radar if we are unable to resign Elvis Dumervil.
Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 1:20 pm to
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GM Mickey Loomis says the Saints "hit it off" with free agent CB Nnamdi Asomugha during his weekend visit.
Contrary to reports, Loomis also said DC Rob Ryan wasn't the only Saints official to meet with Asomugha. Loomis and coach Sean Payton met with Asomugha before departing for the league meetings in Phoenix. Asomugha would be teaming up with Keenan Lewis in a revamped Saints secondary if he followed his old coordinator Ryan to New Orleans.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 1:29 pm to
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Isn't Shaun Phillips still out there as a free agent? He could be a pretty good pick-up for the Jets' 34 defense. He had 9.5 sacks last year for the SD Chargers, and he's been pretty consistent through his career (skip his down year in 2011). I've read where he, John Abraham, Dwight Freeney, and Osi Umanyiroa are on the Broncos' radar if we are unable to resign Elvis Dumervil.



Age/money, they have to use it wisely right now(especially if they are planning to sign Kolb). Phillips would have to take a small contract with the Jets, and no one wants to presently. Tons of talent out there still, just can't afford it. James Harrison is pretty much gonna have to play for peanuts if he stays out there any longer(and those Goodell fines aren't cheap).

This is the point where a lot go back to their teams they planned on leaving...
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Saints signed TE Ben Watson to a three-year contract.
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 1:50 pm to
lol
Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:03 pm to
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According to the Arizona Republic's Kent Somers, there is "zero chance" the Cardinals trade Larry Fitzgerald this offseason.
A Fitz trade is "not happening," reported Somers, who noted that Arizona would absorb a whopping $15 million cap hit to move Fitzgerald. (The Cardinals are already not in great salary-cap shape.) Since Colts owner Jim Irsay tweeted his team was pursuing wide receivers, many rumor mongers have speculated Fitzgerald could be headed to Indianapolis. Look for the Colts to add a significantly lower-profile receiver such as Doug Baldwin or Davone Bess.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 2:07 pm to
Pretty sure Irsay was talking about Doug Baldwin
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:23 pm to
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Just hours after reports surfaced that the Chiefs were open to a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert, Albert has decided to remove any uncertainty about his current contractual status.

Albert has accepted his franchise tender, Mike Garafolo of USA Today reports. That means Albert won’t be a training camp holdout and will play this season for a guaranteed base salary of $9.828 million this season if he doesn’t get a long-term deal done in the next four months.


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The Buccaneers signed running back LeGarrette Blount to a one-year contract before the start of free agency, but that doesn’t mean he’ll play in Tampa this season.

In fact, the Bucs are trying to trade Blount, according to the Tampa Bay Times.


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According to Mike Garafolo of USA Today, it’s not because of a lack of interest. Garafolo reports that the Lions, Dolphins and others have expressed serious interest in Umenyiora but that the money isn’t there for defensive ends. With Lions General Manager Martin Mayhew saying Monday, via Tim Twentyman of the team’s website, that the team is probably done with big name signings, it doesn’t really look like the market’s going to get much stronger.


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According to Vaughn McClure of the Chicago Tribune, former Bears cornerback D.J. Moore is visiting the Panthers later this week.


Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:24 pm to
It appears Welker and Pats just had a lot of bad blood

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But owner Robert Kraft just went into an eye-opening amount of detail on the team’s negotiations with wide receiver Wes Welker, emphasizing that keeping Welker was the team’s first choice before the wide receiver went to Denver.

“You know, everyone in our organization wanted Wes Welker back,” Kraft said, via Mike Reiss of ESPNBoston.com. “Anyone who doubts that, or thinks we weren’t serious, just doesn’t get it. I’ve owned the team 19 years and I’ve known in the end we have to have certain limits and restraints. Like I’ve said many times, I really wanted Wes to be with us through the rest of his career, but it takes two sides to do a deal. . . .

“In Wes’ case, we were willing to go what we considered above his market value. For a couple years, we tried to get a long-term deal done with him. We couldn’t do a deal and we wound up franchising him at a very high number [$9.5 million]. In retrospect, I wish we could have wrapped that into an arrangement where it was part of a longer-term deal.

“But I really believe in this case, his agents misrepresented, in their mind, what his market value was. When you come right down to the bottom line, he accepted a deal in Denver which is less money than what we offered him. In fact, he has a one-year deal in Denver for $6 million. Our last offer, before we would have even gone up and before we thought we were going into free agency, was a $10 million offer with incentives that would have earned him another $6 million if he performed the way he had the previous two years. But in Denver, he’s going to count $4 million against the cap this coming year and $8 million the second year. There is no guarantee that he plays the second year there. He will get $6 million the first year. Our deal, he would have gotten $8 million the first year – our last offer to him.


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Kraft also referred to Danny Amendola as “our second alternative,” which should make Amendola feel very welcome in New England.
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 3:25 pm
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:42 pm to
Welker came out and said the Patriots never even gave an offer

Both sides are just posturing for PR
Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 3:48 pm to
Titans informed QB Matt Hasselbeck of his release.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 4:45 pm to
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Quarterback
1. Ryan Fitzpatrick: Fitzpatrick is far from a jewel, but his experience should at least make him useful as a backup somewhere. He’s never been able to shake his extremely turnover-prone ways.

2. Kevin Kolb: He’s not a free agent yet, but that’s just a matter of time. Kolb’s younger than Fitzpatrick and may have been doomed to fail in a bad situation with the Cardinals. Any team out there looking at Kolb as a potential starter is in bad shape for 2013.

3. Jason Campbell: There does not appear to be much left in the tank at this point in Campbell’s career, but teams could do worse in the search for a backup. He’s at least been through the ringer as an NFL QB.

Running back
1. Ahmad Bradshaw: A healthy Bradshaw would be an elite find among this year’s free-agent class. Even though he’s constantly banged up, Bradshaw remains a dual-threat weapon.

2. Michael Turner: If you want a big-play threat, look elsewhere. If you need an experienced back capable of handling 220-plus carries, though, Turner still fits the bill.

3. Felix Jones: There just has to be more Jones can do, right? Somewhere, hiding within a battered and inconsistent player is the guy that led the league with a 5.9 yards-per-carry average a few years back.

Wide receiver
1. Brandon Lloyd: New England may not want Lloyd back, but he should find a home after a 74-catch 2012 season. There were reports that Lloyd was a bit of an issue in the locker room, so that could drive down his market.

2. Darrius Heyward-Bey: DHB appeared ready to turn the corner after a strong 2011 season, only to slip back to mediocrity in 2012. He’s still young and remains a dangerous weapon outside, especially if he winds up in a solid offensive situation.

3. Julian Edelman: The poor man’s Wes Welker may have trouble finding a place where he fits as well as New England … and he still could wind up back with the Patriots. Still, for a team in need of a cheap, versatile slot receiver, Edelman has to be in consideration.

BURKE: Best, worst contracts from free agency’s first week

Tight end
1. Fred Davis: Davis lost more than half the 2012 season to a torn Achilles. He’s a legitimate threat for a passing attack when he’s at 100 percent.

2. Kellen Davis: The Bears signed Martellus Bennett to play tight end because Davis proved nearly incapable of catching a pass. He is good enough, however, to warrant a shot as at least a second tight end.

3. Dante Rosario: Rosario had that three-touchdown game last season with Antonio Gates hurt, then barely made a peep the rest of the year. That explosive performance hints at the potential that’s there, though.

Offensive tackle
1. Andre Smith: Smith had a sensational 2012 — one that wasn’t quite in line with the rest of his career. So, teams will be wary of paying for a player who could revert back to his disappointing previous form. That said, 2012 Andre Smith was a beast.

2. Sebastian Vollmer: If not for injury worries, Vollmer probably would be ahead of Smith here. He’s a hulking but athletic presence on the edge and has proven to be a terrific fit for New England’s offense.

3. Eric Winston: Winston should come cheaper than either Smith or Vollmer. Of course, there’s a reason for that: Winston is a step down from these players.

Guard/Center
1. Brandon Moore: The best interior lineman on the market, Moore should see the buzz around him pick up now that the top tier free agents are off the board.

2. Kevin Boothe: The ex-Giant delivered an underrated performance in 2012. Better yet, he can slide out and play tackle, too.

3. Dan Koppen: The Patriots cut Koppen last year, only for the veteran to step in and play very well for Denver. He’s reaching the end of the line, but he showed in 2012 that he can get the job done.

BANKS: Five non-playoff teams who improved the most

Defensive tackle
1. Richard Seymour: Seymour might retire rather than suit up in 2013 — he’s reportedly asking for big money, which could price him out of just about every team’s range. That’s too bad, because he played well for Oakland last year before an injury sidelined him.

2. Sedrick Ellis: A lot of the free-agent DTs have come off the board already, leaving high-upside, low-production guys like Ellis, the No. 7 pick in 2008.

3. Sen’Derrick Marks: Sort of in the same boat as Ellis, as his play on the field has never really lived up to the hype. Still just 26 years old, the undersized Marks could be a solid depth addition.

Defensive end
1. Elvis Dumervil: All of the sacks, none of the fax. A ridiculous Kinko’s-related snafu last week released Dumervil onto the open market. He did not play well enough in 2012 to earn the $12 million he was set to make in 2013 (before agreeing to that ill-fated pay cut). He does still bring enough pass-rushing ability to the table to be arguably the top available player out there right now.

2. John Abraham: That the pass-rush-needy Falcons sent Abraham packing is a bit of a red flag, and the incredibly cold market for defensive ends won’t help him. Abraham did have 10.0 sacks in 2012.

3. Dwight Freeney: The 33-year-old Freeney managed a mere 5.0 sacks in 14 games for the Colts last year. But his veteran savvy should earn him some points.

Outside linebackers
1. Victor Butler: Maybe the most overlooked member of this year’s free-agent class, Butler might thrive if given a shot to play on a full-time basis.

2. James Harrison: Harrison will turn 35 in May and his production has been on a steady decline since a 16.0-sack season back in 2008.

3. Daryl Smith: He should come extremely cheap after a groin injury limited him to fewer than 125 snaps last season. Smith is far from a great pass rusher, but he did have two seasons of 107 tackles from 2009-11.

Inside linebackers
1. Karlos Dansby: Pushed out by Miami’s defensive revamping, Dansby should field plenty of calls from teams in need of reliable inside ‘backers. He was on the field for more than 1,100 snaps in 2012 as a three-down player.

2. Brad Jones: The 26-year-old Jones never could nail down a starting role in Green Bay, so teams will have to temper their expectations.

3. Brian Urlacher: The name is more of a sell now than the player. Urlacher would be a nice fit on a young, talented defense in need of a veteran voice. Just don’t expect him to be a Pro Bowler.

Cornerback
1. Brent Grimes: Possibly the next big piece to fall (maybe by returning to Atlanta), Grimes earned the franchise tag prior to 2012, only to tear his Achilles. He could wind up a bit of a steal.

2. Antoine Winfield: Minnesota’s surprise release of Winfield could be another franchise’s gain. The veteran has been sensational as a slot corner for multiple seasons, and he was Pro Football Focus’ top-rated CB overall in 2012.

3. E.J. Biggers: With apologies to Nnamdi Asomugha, Biggers deserve a mention here after how he played for Tampa Bay’s brutal defense last season. He’s not a No. 1 guy, but he should be strong addition to someone’s secondary.

Safety
1. Ed Reed: How much does Reed have left? If the 2012 season was any indication, the hourglass is almost out of sand. And yet, he’s now a Super Bowl champion with a terrific locker room presence and the ability to change a game in a heartbeat.

2. Kerry Rhodes: Rhodes played amazingly well for Arizona last season, so his release — even though he was owed $6 million — was a surprise. If Reed is commanding attention, then Rhodes should be, too.

3. Michael Huff: The Raiders played Huff at corner for most of last year because their roster was such a mess. He should be back at safety in 2013, where he’s a better player.


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Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 5:02 pm to
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The Denver Post reports the Ravens are "negotiating" with free agent Elvis Dumervil.
It's unclear if any deal is imminent, but Baltimore's interest is genuine. Dumervil reportedly received a "strong recommendation" from Ravens assistant Wink Martindale, who was Dumervil's position coach when he led the league with 17 sacks in 2009. Dumervil would be a 3-4 outside linebacker in Baltimore.
Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 8:54 pm to
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NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports the Colts are close to a two-year deal with free agent Matt Hasselbeck.
The Titans released Hasselbeck just five hours ago, but the Colts moved fast on the soon-to-be 38-year-old. Hasselbeck will replace Drew Stanton as the backup to Andrew Luck, and the grizzled veteran will be a nice sounding board for the second-year quarterback. With OC Pep Hamilton installing a more dink-and-dunk offense, Hasselbeck will be capable of stepping in should Luck miss time with an injury.
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 9:04 pm to
Where in the world is Nmandi on that list? did he sign?....
Posted by Na Mean
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 9:07 pm to
Not yet.
Posted by Brageous
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 9:11 pm to
Only on the Saints Talk do people think he's signed

It's quite funny over there right now.
This post was edited on 3/18/13 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Antiheroaz
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Posted on 3/18/13 at 10:01 pm to
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Once we fix the OT issue, I will be prepared to expect this team to face the 49ers in the NFC Championship, and nothing less.



El o El

Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 3/19/13 at 10:50 am to
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The Raiders announced that they and defensive tackle Vance Walker, who spent the last four years with the Falcons, have agreed on a contract for the 2013 season. He played in all 16 games for Atlanta last season, starting nine times and setting career highs with three sacks and 32 tackles. He largely played a run-stopping role during his years with Atlanta, although those sacks suggest he’s not without some ability to thwart the opposition’s designs on passing the ball.


And more from the saga that is Wes vs Pats

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Responding to Patriots owner Robert Kraft’s statement that Welker’s “agents misrepresented, in their mind, what his market value was,” Welker’s agents at Athletes First have released a statement to Albert Breer of NFL Network, saying that there was no negotiating with New England because the Patriots were only interested in telling Welker to take what they were offering and like it.

“[T]he Patriots made one offer to Wes Welker since the prior negotiations ended in July 2012,” Athletes First said in the statement. “Both sides also agree that this two-year offer came just hours before the start of free agency despite discussions that began at the NFL Combine. Moreover, this lone offer was presented as a ‘take it or leave it offer.’ When we asked if there was room for structural changes, we were told no. We made a counter-offer for the same term and same maximum dollar amount as their offer and it was rejected. We inquired if any of the offer’s components were negotiable and were told no. This refusal to actually negotiate made it easy to reject the Patriots offer. Nevertheless, when we received the Denver Broncos’ offer, Wes personally talked to Mr. Kraft to give the Patriots the opportunity to match it. The Patriots rejected this opportunity and Wes signed with the Denver Broncos.”

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