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The dark secret behind the success of Sid Luckman, the greatest Bears quarterback ever
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/13/19 at 11:51 am
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In one of the loveliest of father-son traditions, a little boy was given his first football by his dad. Sid Luckman would spectacularly throw that ball and many others through a legendary career that culminated with his becoming the greatest quarterback in Chicago Bears history.
But for a strange time in the 1930s, the son and father both appeared in headlines of New York City newspapers, the youngster for throwing touchdowns, the father for murdering his brother-in-law.
That is but one of the stunning stories contained in a remarkable new book. “Tough Luck: Sid Luckman, Murder, Inc., and the Rise of the Modern NFL” (Atlantic Monthly Press). It’s an artfully organized and deeply researched book, one that alternates the vastly different but united-for-keeps stories of father and son, and is filled with dozens of colorful characters, good and evil, and secrets no longer hidden.
Throughout Sid’s playing career and later life as a successful Chicago businessman, the sins of his father stayed in the shadows. “This was a hands-off time,” said author R.D. Rosen. “It was a very courteous media that observed the fine line between an athlete’s public and private lives. If I were to speculate, I would say that the thinking was, ‘We love this guy, let’s not saddle him in print with the misdeeds of the father.'"
Those misdeeds were significant. Meyer Luckman ran a Brooklyn trucking business and had ties to organized crime, notably a modest association with Louis “Lepke” Buchalter, a prolific killer, one-time head of the murder-for-hire outfit known as Murder, Inc. and an energetic labor racketeer.
But the crime for which Meyer was arrested and tried was for beating and strangling his brother-in-law to death. It was a gruesome killing and messy trial, Sid often sitting with other family members in the courtroom. His father and two others were convicted of the murder and sentenced to 20 years to life “of hard labor” at Sing Sing, the state prison in upstate New York.
TL;DR, this is the equivalent of Tom Brady or Drew Brees being from a mob family.
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Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:26 pm to Jim Rockford
Sid Luckman 1938 season passing stats :180/376 - 2413 yds-20 tds in 9 games
Montana/1978 -141/260- 2020 yds- 10 tds in 12 games
Brady/1999 - 180/295-2217 yds- 16 tds in 12 games
Just imagine Luckman playing with the smaller ,easier to grip/ throw Football of today , protectve rules & rules that make it easier to throw the ball.
There were "only" 19 Football Fatalities ( decrease) in 1938 according to the NY Times.
Montana/1978 -141/260- 2020 yds- 10 tds in 12 games
Brady/1999 - 180/295-2217 yds- 16 tds in 12 games
Just imagine Luckman playing with the smaller ,easier to grip/ throw Football of today , protectve rules & rules that make it easier to throw the ball.
There were "only" 19 Football Fatalities ( decrease) in 1938 according to the NY Times.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:28 pm to sugar71
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Sid Luckman 1938 season passing stats
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:34 pm to sugar71
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Just imagine Luckman playing with the smaller ,easier to grip/ throw Football of today , protectve rules & rules that make it easier to throw the ball.
You forgot the part about playing against much better competition/athletes.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:35 pm to Jim Rockford
some posters on here (not naming names) feel like Drew Brees is affiliated with an organization that is FAR WORSE than the mob...
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:48 pm to StealthCalais11
quote:I bet Luckman was a better pure athlete than 5.3 / 40 Brady. And Luckman would be throwing to faster receivers today so I guess he would thrive.
You forgot the part about playing against much better competition/athletes.
Plus you could actually hit & perhaps legally kill Sid Luckman(stuff happened in 1938 Football) since I don't think anything was really illegal in tackling. There were only 19 deaths that year.
I was just having a little fun pointing out that despite a more round Football people did throw/ move the Football & all games werent 6-3. Calm down.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 1:59 pm to sugar71
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don't think anything was really illegal in tackling. There were only 19 deaths that year.
until mid 50s
Nfl runner could get back up if he slipped, tripped or was knocked down.
Terrible injuries happened when guys were getting up.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:00 pm to Winston Cup
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Sid Luckman 1938 season passing stats
I can hear LSUPride typing that authentic telegram on a daisy wheel teleprinter in his Fedora hat.
This post was edited on 9/13/19 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 9/13/19 at 2:04 pm to SirWinston
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some posters on here (not naming names) feel like Drew Brees is affiliated with an organization that is FAR WORSE than the mob...
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Louis “Lepke” Buchalter, a prolific killer, one-time head of the murder-for-hire outfit known as Murder, Inc. and an energetic labor racketeer.
Yeah, no doubt Lepke was at least rather LGBT friendly.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 3:25 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:So courteous of the (((media))) to protect (((Meyer Luckman)))
This was a hands-off time,” said author R.D. Rosen. “It was a very courteous media that observed the fine line between an athlete’s public and private lives.
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:23 pm to genro
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So courteous of the (((media))) to protect (((Meyer Luckman)))
"NFL beat writer's Body Recovered from Lake Michigan"
Posted on 9/13/19 at 5:46 pm to CelticDog
quote:Grabbing the facemask was actually legal before 1956 Then it was only legal to grab the ball carriers facemask until banned in 1962. I love hard nosed Football ,but that era sounds scary.
until mid 50s
Nfl runner could get back up if he slipped, tripped or was knocked down.
Terrible injuries happened when guys were getting up.
Love that Luckman had 41 passing attempts per game in 1938.
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