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The Big Four (plus one), Examined
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:52 pm
Slams and Age:
Roger Federer: 17 slams; 24 slam finals; 31 years, 5 months
Rafael Nadal: 11 slams (1 gold medal); 16 slam finals; 26 years, 7 months
Novak Djokovic: 6 slams; 11 slam finals; 25 years, 8 months
Andy Murray: 1 slam (1 gold medal); 6 slam finals; 25 years, 8 months.
Juan Martin Del Potro: 1 slam; 1 slam final; 24 years, 4 months.
Record Against Big Four:
Rafael Nadal: 50-29, 63%
Novak Djokovic: 38-42, 48%
Roger Federer: 35-42, 45%
Andy Murray: 23-33, 41%
Juan Martin Del Potro: 10-32, 24%
Record Against Big Four (plus one):
Rafael Nadal: 57-32, 64%
Roger Federer: 48-46, 51%
Novak Djokovic: 45-44, 51%
Andy Murray: 28-34, 45%
Juan Martin Del Potro: 10-32, 24%
Masters 1000 Events:
Rafael Nadal: 21 wins, 31 finals
Roger Federer: 21 wins, 33 finals
Novak Djokovic: 13 wins, 23 finals
Andy Murray: 8 wins, 11 finals
Juan Martin Del Potro: 0 wins, 1 finals
The last time a Grand Slam was won by somebody other than these five individuals:
Marat Safin, 2005 Australian Open
Best Surface:
Rafael Nadal: Clay, 7 French Open wins
Roger Federer: Grass, 7 Wimby wins, 8 Wimby finals
Novak Djokovic: Hard, 4 Aussie wins, 1 U.S. Open win, 4 U.S. Open finals
Andy Murray: Grass and Hard, 1 US Open win, 2 U.S. Open finals; 1 Gold Medal win on grass; 1 Wimby finals appearance; 3 Aussie finals appearances.
Juan Martin Del Potro: Hard, 1 US Open win, several wins in various hard court ATP tournaments.
Career Earnings:
Roger Federer: 76 million
Rafael Nadal: 50 million
Novak Djokovic: 48 million
Andy Murray: 26 million
Juan Martin Del Potro: 11 million
Best years:*
Novak Djokovic: 2011, 12.6 million
Rafael Nadal: 2010, 7.7 million
Roger Federer: 2007, 7.4 million
Andy Murray: 2012, 5.7 million
Juan Martin Del Potro: 2009, 4.7 million
*These number should probably be adjusted for inflation. Prize money has gone up in the majors every year.
Roger Federer: 17 slams; 24 slam finals; 31 years, 5 months
Rafael Nadal: 11 slams (1 gold medal); 16 slam finals; 26 years, 7 months
Novak Djokovic: 6 slams; 11 slam finals; 25 years, 8 months
Andy Murray: 1 slam (1 gold medal); 6 slam finals; 25 years, 8 months.
Juan Martin Del Potro: 1 slam; 1 slam final; 24 years, 4 months.
Record Against Big Four:
Rafael Nadal: 50-29, 63%
Novak Djokovic: 38-42, 48%
Roger Federer: 35-42, 45%
Andy Murray: 23-33, 41%
Juan Martin Del Potro: 10-32, 24%
Record Against Big Four (plus one):
Rafael Nadal: 57-32, 64%
Roger Federer: 48-46, 51%
Novak Djokovic: 45-44, 51%
Andy Murray: 28-34, 45%
Juan Martin Del Potro: 10-32, 24%
Masters 1000 Events:
Rafael Nadal: 21 wins, 31 finals
Roger Federer: 21 wins, 33 finals
Novak Djokovic: 13 wins, 23 finals
Andy Murray: 8 wins, 11 finals
Juan Martin Del Potro: 0 wins, 1 finals
The last time a Grand Slam was won by somebody other than these five individuals:
Marat Safin, 2005 Australian Open
Best Surface:
Rafael Nadal: Clay, 7 French Open wins
Roger Federer: Grass, 7 Wimby wins, 8 Wimby finals
Novak Djokovic: Hard, 4 Aussie wins, 1 U.S. Open win, 4 U.S. Open finals
Andy Murray: Grass and Hard, 1 US Open win, 2 U.S. Open finals; 1 Gold Medal win on grass; 1 Wimby finals appearance; 3 Aussie finals appearances.
Juan Martin Del Potro: Hard, 1 US Open win, several wins in various hard court ATP tournaments.
Career Earnings:
Roger Federer: 76 million
Rafael Nadal: 50 million
Novak Djokovic: 48 million
Andy Murray: 26 million
Juan Martin Del Potro: 11 million
Best years:*
Novak Djokovic: 2011, 12.6 million
Rafael Nadal: 2010, 7.7 million
Roger Federer: 2007, 7.4 million
Andy Murray: 2012, 5.7 million
Juan Martin Del Potro: 2009, 4.7 million
*These number should probably be adjusted for inflation. Prize money has gone up in the majors every year.
This post was edited on 1/28/13 at 9:44 pm
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Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:56 pm to bobbyray21
Why is Del PLOLtro listed?
Posted on 1/28/13 at 1:57 pm to The Boat
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Why is Del PLOLtro listed?
Because five guys have won majors since the 2005 Australian Open. And Delpo is one of them.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:00 pm to bobbyray21
Weak thread
Someone post something interesting! Quick!!!!!
Someone post something interesting! Quick!!!!!
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:07 pm to KBeezy
Agassi and Sampras had some pretty good recent interviews on those four and the state of the game. What stuck out for me with Andre -- he says there is no way guys are doping, the game is just different now, they come ready to play six hours. But, in saying that his gas tank was four hours, I think he hints at it.
I love how he rolled out Plan A against Nadal, which worked, then Rafa gave him some shite he hadn't seen before.
LINK
Sampras doesn't add much, but I liked the background about meeting up with Djokovic.
LINK /
I read all this stuff about how that final yesterday sucked, and the finish obviously did, but I thought it was three sets of damn good tennis. If Murray cashes on triple break point early in the second or doesn't go schizo over a feather in the second set tiebreak, maybe it goes the other way.
I love how he rolled out Plan A against Nadal, which worked, then Rafa gave him some shite he hadn't seen before.
LINK
Sampras doesn't add much, but I liked the background about meeting up with Djokovic.
LINK /
I read all this stuff about how that final yesterday sucked, and the finish obviously did, but I thought it was three sets of damn good tennis. If Murray cashes on triple break point early in the second or doesn't go schizo over a feather in the second set tiebreak, maybe it goes the other way.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:10 pm to bobbyray21
quote:
Rafael Nadal: Clay, 7 French Open wins, 8 French Open finals
when did he lose a french final? The one time he didn't win it he lost to Soderling in a earlier round (1/4 final I think)
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
Nadal win % against the others is strikingly awesome.
Too bad he sacrifices his body too much to sustain that much success.
RAFANADA FOREVER!!!
Too bad he sacrifices his body too much to sustain that much success.
RAFANADA FOREVER!!!
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:13 pm to TheCaterpillar
I always call him a bitch and faker/hypochondriac, but this is unbelievable.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:18 pm to Bunk Moreland
wow. much respect for nadal
Posted on 1/28/13 at 2:50 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
I always call him a bitch and faker/hypochondriac, but this is unbelievable.
LINK
Badass is what he is.
The dude has serious medical issues and people that don't know shite always call him a bitch.
Tough SOB right there and had he not been born with that ailment, he would be the GOAT IMO.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 3:19 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
I always call him a bitch and faker/hypochondriac, but this is unbelievable.
RAFA!!!
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:07 pm to FootballNostradamus
I enjoy watching Fed play the most, but Nadal's win percentage is amazing!
I doubt that Nadal will catch Fed in Grand Slams b/c of his knees but the guy is def one of the all time greats.
Murray finally broke through last year. Will be interesting to see if he can win some more majors.
I doubt that Nadal will catch Fed in Grand Slams b/c of his knees but the guy is def one of the all time greats.
Murray finally broke through last year. Will be interesting to see if he can win some more majors.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:15 pm to bobbyray21
Murray is who I'm pulling for regardless of who he's playing.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:26 pm to Pectus
It seems like everyone of the big four except Federer is on some kind of PED. Murray is just ripped right now, Djokovic has unbelievable stamina and Nadal is built like an NFL player.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:28 pm to RedHawk
quote:
It seems like everyone of the big four except Federer is on some kind of PED
I would say club fed's amazing sustaining greatness would be the case for him on PED's of some sort.
i didnt realize delpo was so young. maybe he can eek out another slam? i expect joker to make the next few seasons his bitch
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:50 pm to Tweezy
quote:
I would say club fed's amazing sustaining greatness would be the case for him on PED's of some sort.
And how fed makes everything look so damn easy and unchallenging. He barely even breaks a sweat when he plays.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 4:58 pm to bluebarracuda
the man hits a one handed backhand for christ's sake 
Posted on 1/28/13 at 9:41 pm to castorinho
quote:
when did he lose a french final? The one time he didn't win it he lost to Soderling in a earlier round (1/4 final I think)
Yup. My mistake.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:01 pm to bobbyray21
Somewhat unfair to compare these over extended periods of time. Fed is 6 years older than the other guys. There was a time when he was untouchable. He dominated pretty much everyone for number of years. 17 majors don't lie. In addition, he one on every surface which in think is a testament to the player. Not nearly as much of a specialist as Nadal.
Lendl coulT win on clay. Mac couldn't win on clay. Either could Pete. I think winning then French strongly bolstered his claim to greatest of all time.
You post shows is the amount of parity at the top of the men's game. Very hard to dominate these days. It's really the glory days as far as a spectator sport butvthe non-tennis sports fans in the States because no American is a real and constant factor in this discussion.
Lendl coulT win on clay. Mac couldn't win on clay. Either could Pete. I think winning then French strongly bolstered his claim to greatest of all time.
You post shows is the amount of parity at the top of the men's game. Very hard to dominate these days. It's really the glory days as far as a spectator sport butvthe non-tennis sports fans in the States because no American is a real and constant factor in this discussion.
Posted on 1/28/13 at 10:05 pm to bobbyray21
I clicked on this thread expecting it to be about the college football playoff system.
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