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re: The 2021 Unofficial Australian Open Thread
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:49 am to Bunk Moreland
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:49 am to Bunk Moreland
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Alright, putting a little over a hundred on Nole. Doubt I will be up for the start of this unless I black out early tonight and am up early. I'll probably wake up around 6 eastern and hope it's at the start of the third set or so. See you boys in the morning.
Looks like this one was #freemoney. I thought this might be the tournament where Daniil breaks through, but clearly he was just outclassed. These "big 3" have been soooo good for soooo long. Shitsy pants and Daniil-san will have their day in the sun at some point, but the old guys still have it.
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:54 am to Hot Carl
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but is there any question that peak Joker is the highest quality tennis playing ever?
I'm the biggest Rafa fanboy there is, but I think you're right. He can take his game to a level that nobody else can. And he does it without having a dominant serve, the faintest interest in net play, or a 4.5 level overhead. Those groundstrokes doe.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 11:56 am to dukke v
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he will shatter both what Fed or Rafa do Major wise....
I don’t know about “shatter,” but I think he’ll pass them. This one was big for him in that regard. He’s got 18 to their 20. And you’ve got to think Rafa makes it 21 at Roland Garros, so Novak not going down 21-17 was big. Still, he’ll probably be down 3 to Rafa after the French. But he’s good enough to win there too, so he could potentially pull to 20-19 if he does. Adding one for himself would even huge, but preventing Rafa from winning there may be even bigger in the long run.
Can’t imagine Fed really having any realistic shots outside of maybe the next 2 Wimbledons and US Opens, but he does seem to have found the fountain of youth a couple of times in his career when we assumed it was at its dusk.
I think a lot depends on if Rafa “holds serve” so to speak, and wins the next 2 Frenches and maybe eeks out an Open somehow. We should know more after things shake out in September, but if these 3 keep doping like at the level they have to be to be playing like this at their bases, and none of the young guys step up to seriously challenge them, 1 or 2 of them very well may end up in the mid 20s.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:38 pm to Hot Carl
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outside of maybe the next 2 Wimbledons and US Opens
US Opens?
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:06 pm to MidnightVibe
Federer's only chance from here on out is Wimbledon, in my opinion.
Djokovic can win anywhere, obviously.
I actually think Rafa's best chance to win a slam outside of of Roland Garros over the next couple of years is Wimbledon. That is the surface that guys like Thiem, Medvedev, Zverev, Tstistipas, etc. don't really have the experience or accomplishment on yet. Simply less competition.
Djokovic can win anywhere, obviously.
I actually think Rafa's best chance to win a slam outside of of Roland Garros over the next couple of years is Wimbledon. That is the surface that guys like Thiem, Medvedev, Zverev, Tstistipas, etc. don't really have the experience or accomplishment on yet. Simply less competition.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:07 pm to Eat Your Crow
Nadal and Fed are so lucky that New York lesbian put on a Oscar worthy acting job or Novak would be lapping them this year in major titles
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:09 pm to MidnightVibe
quote:No. He is the best ever. His return of serve is the best shot in tennis history. As a player, who spent 5 hours a day playing the game for 15 years of my life, his return is the most amazing thing I have ever seen
but is there any question that peak Joker is the highest quality tennis playing ever?
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Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:42 pm to lsupride87
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His return of serve is the best shot in tennis history.
And that’s basically just all-time early recognition and hand-eye coordination. I know nothing about him outside of tennis, but I bet he’s really good at golf, too. Elite hand-eye coordination transfers to other sports and plays. Probably was a really good soccer player in his youth as well.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 1:52 pm to MidnightVibe
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US Opens?
Yeah, I guess I should have gone with Australian Opens since he’s won there a lot more recently. I mainly went with the U.S. because it’s sooner and I knew he was a 5-time champion there. I didn’t realize those 5 were consecutive and his last one was in ‘08. Jesus, think about that. Before this era, imagine someone winning a slam for the 5th consecutive year and still be competing for them 13 years later. Crazy. And he’ll be 40 by the time it kicks off.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 3:54 pm to lsupride87
That disqualification may really cost him in the title chase. Rafa should win RG, so now you're back at a three major deficit. But, Novak should win at least one more this year. I think he and Rafa finish around 22.
That was just a masterclass today. Medvedev is a great personality, he was awesome in the ceremony.
That was just a masterclass today. Medvedev is a great personality, he was awesome in the ceremony.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 9:20 am to MidnightVibe
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These "big 3" have been soooo good for soooo long. Shitsy pants and Daniil-san will have their day in the sun at some point, but the old guys still have it.
Add in the fact that tiniest little advantage gets multiplied by so much in the 5 set matches. It and fitness seem to be the issues that have created the dominance in slams.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:00 pm to Eat Your Crow
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Federer's only chance from here on out is Wimbledon, in my opinion.
This point isn't even arguable.
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I actually think Rafa's best chance to win a slam outside of of Roland Garros over the next couple of years is Wimbledon.
I think he has a puncher's chance at Wimbledon, but I think his best chance would be another US Open. He just always plays well there.
Your point about the field not being as seasoned on grass is fair, but I have a hard time believing he's gonna beat Novak on grass.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:04 pm to lsupride87
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His return of serve is the best shot in tennis history.
See, look, even pride and I can find common ground from time to time.
Djokovic's ROS is of a different universe. Actually...that's too limiting. It's of a different dimension. It really is almost tough to get your brain wrapped around. No matter where you serve it, or how hard you serve it, if that guy can get his racquet on it, he's sticking right back at your feet Every. Single. Time.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:06 pm to Hot Carl
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Probably was a really good soccer player in his youth as well.
I think he was more singularly devoted to tennis earlier than the others. I'm sure he would have been very good at both those, but not sure he really gave either much of a chance.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:08 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Medvedev is a great personality, he was awesome in the ceremony.
Yeah, I like Medvedev. Seems like a cool dude.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:11 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I think he and Rafa finish around 22.
I think Rafa will win one more RG and that's it. I don't think Fed will win another major. I agree with your Novak number. 22 sounds about right. He'll be the heavy favorite at Wimbledon this year.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 1:14 pm to MidnightVibe
I also don't think it's terribly controversial to make the claim that Novak has the best backhand in the history of the game.
Posted on 2/22/21 at 2:09 pm to MidnightVibe
I really don't think Novak is close to done. Federer was in a slam final at the age of 37, and I believe Novak will have similar longevity. Of course, the competition Novak will be facing in the next 3-4 years will be very strong.
I'd peg Rafa at 22, and that will be the number for Novak to beat.
I'd peg Rafa at 22, and that will be the number for Novak to beat.
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