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re: The 154th Open - Ryan Fox (meh) is your champion golfer of the year
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:35 am to Choupique19
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:35 am to Choupique19
Scottie had two putts less than 2 inches from falling in today. Two for birdie on 9 and 18
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 9:38 am
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:42 am to lsupride87
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Yeh true. Every year the little leprechaun and posh British media act like the open is a true test of a golfer and tricky blah blah blah when it’s really a goat ranch and easy
On links courses, scores are totally dependent upon the weather. But when there is no wind or rain and the course is baked out, yeah it's going to play easier. This same course produced an over par champion in 2008. At Royal Troon in 2024, only 6 guys finished the tournament under par and the cut was +6. Regardless, despite the ideal conditions, no one has gone super low or anything, at least not yet, and the wind seems to be ticking up for the afternoon groups
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We are going to see like 20 plus rounds in the 60s
even par being 70 is certainly relevant to mention if you want to throw out this stat
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 9:53 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:47 am to lsufball19
Why is Rory just teeing off? I thought his start time was 5am?
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:54 am to lsufball19
Total strokes should always be used versus score to par IMHO
Posted on 7/16/26 at 9:56 am to lsupride87
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Total strokes should always be used versus score to par IMHO
In the context of the point you were trying to make, why?
Or really in any context. The entire game of golf is based on your score relative to par. And if that doesn't matter, why even have a par listed for each hole and course?
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 9:59 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:14 am to lsupride87
See Bryson is in the clubhouse at -3. Guess Sir Nick needs to criticize him in the press more often. 
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:38 am to lsufball19
The entire game of golf is actually built on how many strokes it takes you to get the ball in the hole
Par is arbitrary and meaningless. Without any par standards the game doesn’t change.
A 290 yard par 3 or a 290 yard par 4. Same exact hole. Neither is harder than the other….You make a 4 on both its actually the exact same score
It didn’t become a thing really leaned on until TV golf in the 60s
Par is arbitrary and meaningless. Without any par standards the game doesn’t change.
A 290 yard par 3 or a 290 yard par 4. Same exact hole. Neither is harder than the other….You make a 4 on both its actually the exact same score
It didn’t become a thing really leaned on until TV golf in the 60s
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:43 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:47 am to lsupride87
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Par is arbitrary and meaningless. Without any par standards the game doesn’t change.
A 290 yard par 3 or a 290 yard par 4. Same exact hole. Neither is harder than the other….You make a 4 on both its actually the exact same score
It didn’t become a thing really leaned on until TV golf in the 60s
not a single word of this is true
Here's a scorecard from the US Amateur Final in 1930
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:50 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:47 am to lsupride87
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Par is arbitrary and meaningless. Without any par standards the game doesn’t change.
A 290 yard par 3 or a 290 yard par 4. Same exact hole. Neither is harder than the other….You make a 4 on both its actually the exact same score
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:48 am to lsufball19
It’s 100% true, all of it
st. Andrew’s plays a par 72 at 7300 yards while Shinnecock plays to a 70 at 7400 yards……
It makes far far far more sense to measure any course my total strokes versus par
st. Andrew’s plays a par 72 at 7300 yards while Shinnecock plays to a 70 at 7400 yards……
It makes far far far more sense to measure any course my total strokes versus par
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:49 am to lsupride87
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st. Andrew’s plays a par 72 at 7300 yards while Shinnecock plays to a 70 at 7400 yards……
what's your point?
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It’s 100% true, all of it
no, none of it
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:49 am to JimTiger72
So if I take the exact same hole, exact same, we both make 4, but it’s marked a par 4 the day I play and par 3 the day you play I got a better score on it?
No, you didn’t, we both hit the ball 4 times to get it in the damn hole
No, you didn’t, we both hit the ball 4 times to get it in the damn hole
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:50 am to lsupride87
Do you really think that is a good counter-point to this idiotic argument you're trying to make?
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
I have never heard anyone actually refute using total strokes isn’t better than score to par
Statistically speaking it’s extremely clear what are the best ways to judge performances and its this:
1. Strokes gained relative to field
2. Raw strokes adjusted
3. Raw strokes
4. Score to par
That isn’t arguable
Statistically speaking it’s extremely clear what are the best ways to judge performances and its this:
1. Strokes gained relative to field
2. Raw strokes adjusted
3. Raw strokes
4. Score to par
That isn’t arguable
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:55 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:56 am to lsupride87
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That isn’t arguable
whenever someone says this, it's almost always very arguable
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:57 am to lsufball19
It’s not. Find any data metric that says using score to par is better than raw strokes for judging performance or a course
It’s objective what I posted , not my opinion
It’s objective what I posted , not my opinion
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:00 am to lsupride87
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It’s 100% true, all of it
I love this in reply to a post showing an actual scorecard to a 1930's event when you said it wasn't a thing until TV in the 60's.
For someone who presumably plays golf and talks golf every day online, you have some extremely shitty opinions on golf
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:01 am to lsufball19
Growing up in LA should have prepped Burns for this course pretty good. Hard pan dirt fairways is a LA staple.
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:02 am to iwyLSUiwy
Par was standardized in 1911. Please show where I ever said differently
Par did not starting to get leaned on, as I said verbatim, until the golf tv boom in the 60s
Look it up if you don’t believe me. Before then total strokes was still the most used way to report on golf . When tv came around score to par made it easier to let the audience stay engaged with where everyone stood since players were on different holes as they were watching it unfold
Par did not starting to get leaned on, as I said verbatim, until the golf tv boom in the 60s
Look it up if you don’t believe me. Before then total strokes was still the most used way to report on golf . When tv came around score to par made it easier to let the audience stay engaged with where everyone stood since players were on different holes as they were watching it unfold
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 11:04 am
Posted on 7/16/26 at 11:05 am to iwyLSUiwy
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you have some extremely shitty opinions on golf
he has shitty opinions on most things. I honestly think he just likes to argue and post bullshite he doesn't even believe so he can get engagement on here
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