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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:11 am to
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:11 am to
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Right, because that would be bad for the contenders not named Les. IE You, Andy, Karma, etc


again bitch, i didn't even veto ron's trade because i could see where you improved next year, though it was lopsided as frick. in this trade, you don't improve. it has nothing to do with les getting better. not for me, anyways. if you are going to bitch, then frick it, run it through again and i won't veto. if you think beasley and bosh is an improvement, and if you think that giving up half of your team is of because your playing for next year, then do it.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:14 am to
ronnie's deal was far worse. There were standout performers and almost keepers being dealt for waiver wire fodder. This is borderline waiver wire and low performers for borderline waiverwire fodder.

I haven't voted on this thing yet. Before I do, I would move that LE needs to include a draft pick to even things up a little bit.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:15 am to
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Here's another problem, if this deal goes through and Ronnie's deal got nixed, now Ronnie is the one getting screwed in the deal


Yep.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:15 am to
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I'd rather just do away with it and let RMCC void obvious collusion.



no way. These are the rules we all agreed to. There needs to be a way to police these deals.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:17 am to
i just don't see how beasly and bosh are better than jamison and carter. if rick thinks that will help his team, then i am for it. run it back through rick, i don't have a problem with it brah.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:20 am to
cwill, you see my email?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:22 am to
they're not. but rick thinks they are. the point is however.

And these are for all the people suggesting ronnie mex would be getting the shaft.

ron was getting 4 potential keepers and a good role player. for two keepers and waiver.

that's the diff. other than VC, Jamison, nobody else is a keeper.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:28 am to
wait did that thing already get vetoed?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:28 am to
I think Ron's offer clearly made Rick better next year, that's why I didn't veto, even though ron would have been loaded. This offer doesn't make rick better at all, but if he thinks it does it's on him. If he runs the trade through again, I won't veto.

Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:30 am to
yeah, if you didn't veto it I don't know who else did. Rick is saying that "the contenders" vetoed it, but looks like at least 4 others besides me and nobes vetoed it.
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:31 am to
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Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:33 am to
I just don't why, in this trade and the Ronnie trade why there needs to be 12 players involved. If the rick just wanted to trade VC and Jamison and then add maybe another borderline keeper type guy for Beasely and Bosh and he thought Beasly and Bosh were better than AJ and VC going forward would this be vetoed? I don't understand why half the team needs to be dealt.
This post was edited on 1/14/09 at 11:33 am
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:33 am to
I did not veto. Saw it last night, but wanted to wait til the morning to get a look at it.

slo could've vetoed.
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:35 am to
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I don't understand why half the team needs to be dealt.


Neither do I. It appears to be be window dressing for an uneven trade.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:40 am to
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I just don't why, in this trade and the Ronnie trade why there needs to be 12 players involved. If the rick just wanted to trade VC and Jamison and then add maybe another borderline keeper type guy for Beasely and Bosh and he thought Beasly and Bosh were better than AJ and VC going forward would this be vetoed? I don't understand why half the team needs to be dealt.


that's exactly the point. It's the influx of other players that make it lopsided. do that deal throw in an extra player to make it 3 for 2.
or do 4-2 with a couple of draft picks and nobody would question it.

it's when you do a 2-2 and then 4 waiver wire players for 4 decent people do people get in trouble.


Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 11:42 am to
and throw in the fact that Rick has said he might now even play next year. like i said though, if they do it again i wont veto it.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 12:05 pm to
do the same trade, get LE to include a pick or two and it won't get voted down.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 12:07 pm to
- I'm giving up half of my team to get a player I targeted - Bosh

I guess the question is how does it get to this point? Did you offer the deal or LE? Does it start out with 6 players to get one? If LE offers a deal where you need to send half of your team to get 1 guy why accept it? If you offered the deal 1st then I don't think it's the league's responisibility to veto it to protect you, not what they are doing anyway.
Posted by TigerPhan27
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 12:08 pm to
For example, i wanted Kobe so i gave up 2 players to get him. It never got to a 10 for 10 deal to make it happen
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 1/14/09 at 12:12 pm to
exactly. i just think that there always needs to be a somewhat balance in what's being given even if it's slightly skewed.

and knat, i responded to you email...

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