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re: Steph > LeBron threads disappeared pretty quickly
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:03 pm to SulphursFinest
Posted on 5/9/23 at 8:03 pm to SulphursFinest
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This debate will be settled in the coming weeks
It isn’t a debate. Davis is the best player on the lakers. The only people who protest that are LeFanBois.
It’s more of insult to Davis than it is to LeBron at this point.
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Posted on 5/11/23 at 4:56 am to SulphursFinest
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:25 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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There’s nothing he can really do to make up for some past failures, but he’s done a great job fitting in with the post deadline Lakers
Telling me you’re biased without telling me you’re biased… someone grew up watching in 90s…
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:48 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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It isn’t a debate. Davis is the best player on the lakers.
2022-2023 stats:
LeBron: 28.9 PPG/8.3RPG/6.8APG
AD: 25.9PPG/12.5RPG/2.6APG
To say that this isn’t even a “debate” when Bron the leading scorer shows how you’re either biased… or just know nothing about ball…
Posted on 5/11/23 at 9:55 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
Turns out AD is the softest player in the game
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:21 am to BengalShark
LeBron is clearly the best player on the Lakers (in my opinion).
Davis is clearly the most important player on the Lakers - he is important because if he plays to up to his ability, it is debatable if he or LeBron are the best player on the Lakers. But he often doesn't play. And occasionally when he plays, he plays more like Marcus Morris than Anthony Davis. So he is the most important player because you don't quit know what to expect from him in terms of availability or production.
Davis is clearly the most important player on the Lakers - he is important because if he plays to up to his ability, it is debatable if he or LeBron are the best player on the Lakers. But he often doesn't play. And occasionally when he plays, he plays more like Marcus Morris than Anthony Davis. So he is the most important player because you don't quit know what to expect from him in terms of availability or production.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:47 am to GolfIsGood
Why everything depends on AD
He’s the centerpiece of the entire team. The roster construction-more ball handlers and shot creators is about maximizing Davis as LeBron has lost a step-which natural, fanboys, it’s not insulting. A defender like Vanderbilt is also brought in. That’s the best defensive back line in the playoffs.
As the video shows, that’s inaccurate even when he’s not giving a ton points…but his offense is killing the Warriors too. He’s always played very well against golden state.
Lakers have been tremendously better with AD on the floor than with him off the floor.
They played the same amount of games this year. Bad take.
He’s the centerpiece of the entire team. The roster construction-more ball handlers and shot creators is about maximizing Davis as LeBron has lost a step-which natural, fanboys, it’s not insulting. A defender like Vanderbilt is also brought in. That’s the best defensive back line in the playoffs.
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And occasionally when he plays, he plays more like Marcus Morris than Anthony Davis.
As the video shows, that’s inaccurate even when he’s not giving a ton points…but his offense is killing the Warriors too. He’s always played very well against golden state.
Lakers have been tremendously better with AD on the floor than with him off the floor.
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Davis is clearly the most important player on the Lakers - he is important because if he plays to up to his ability, it is debatable if he or LeBron are the best player on the Lakers. But he often doesn't play.
They played the same amount of games this year. Bad take.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:51 am to BengalShark
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LeBron: 28.9 PPG/8.3RPG/6.8APG AD: 25.9PPG/12.5RPG/2.6APG To say that this isn’t even a “debate” when Bron the leading scorer shows how you’re either biased… or just know nothing about ball…
Jesus Christ, you’re citing per game averages. If you’re going to speak with the adults bring a more nuanced argument.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:57 am to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Jesus Christ, you’re citing per game averages. If you’re going to speak with the adults bring a more nuanced argument.
Statistics are an evaluation of performance.
If statistics don’t matter on PPG average for example then Pippen is better than Jordan.
I could say that bc according to you stats or per game averages aren’t a good argument…
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 11:02 am
Posted on 5/11/23 at 11:46 am to BengalShark
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Statistics are an evaluation of performance. If statistics don’t matter on PPG average for example then Pippen is better than Jordan. I could say that bc according to you stats or per game averages aren’t a good argument…
bringing Michael Jordan into the conversation that isn’t about Jordan is a display of weak argument.
Per game stats do not fully represent performance as those who actually watch basketball know.
Try another take.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 2:13 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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They played the same amount of games this year. Bad take.
Comparing AD’s availability to LeBron is a laughable offense. AD’s softness is the stuff of legends. He is amazing, freakishly talented. He can carry a team. But he is soft. Constantly hurt, missing games, taking himself out of games in crucial situations. And even when not hurt he can be reduced to a role player, why? Because he is soft.
Meanwhile LeBron is in year 20, top 10 all time in games played, top 4 all time in minutes played.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 2:17 pm to GolfIsGood
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Meanwhile LeBron is in year 20, top 10 all time in games played, top 4 all time in minutes played.
Also #1 in all time points and #4 in assists all time! (But some posters say he isn’t top 5)
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:27 pm to BengalShark
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Also #1 in all time points and #4 in assists all time! (But some posters say he isn’t top 5)
Don’t give me too much credit, I am one of those that thinks LeBron is generally overrated in terms of all time greatness.
I would not argue that he had had a top 5 all time career. But if you are asking me is he one of the top 5 players I would take in his peak to go on a playoff run to win a championship, that is where he slides out of the top 5 in my opinion.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 8:45 pm to GolfIsGood
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Comparing AD’s availability to LeBron is a laughable offense
This year they are equally available. We are talking about the present not LeBron James of 03, 2012 or 2016.
And AD saved the Laker season.
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And even when not hurt he can be reduced to a role player, why? Because he is soft.
Then why are they so much better when he’s on the floor than off even when he’s not scoring both offensively and defensively? Because he’s their best player.
Posted on 5/11/23 at 10:29 pm to ThanosIsADemocrat
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Then why are they so much better when he’s on the floor than off even when he’s not scoring both offensively and defensively? Because he’s their best player.
Because most of the time he is in the court he plays like an all nba performer. But then we get a soft AD game (like game game 2 against GSW in t games 2 and 4 against Memohis) when he plays more like a role player. Or you get soft AD grabbing his ankle and going to the locker room and missing part or the game or he takes an elbow to the face and goes down like he took an upper cut from Tyson in 1990. He is soft, you are likely to All NBA AD when and if he plays but soft AD is always lurking. It’s a fact that he has proven throughout his career.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 6:27 am to GolfIsGood
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that is where he slides out of the top 5 in my opinion
Care to name 5 players that you think are better than LeBron?
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:13 am to BengalShark
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Care to name 5 players that you think are better than LeBron?
I will just list players that I watched play for a portion of their career, but these are players I would take in their prime over LeBron for a playoff run: Jordan, Bird, Kareem, Kobe, Curry, and Duncan.
Then I would list LeBron, Magic, Hakeem and Shaq.
Now if you change the question to who had the best career, I would list Jordan, Kareem, LeBron, Bird, Duncan, Magic, Kobe, Curry, Shaq.
Posted on 5/12/23 at 12:22 pm to GolfIsGood
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I will just list players that I watched play for a portion of their career, but these are players I would take in their prime over LeBron for a playoff run: Jordan, Bird, Kareem, Kobe, Curry, and Duncan.
LeBron has more final mvps then all players not named Jordan… he also went to the championship 8 straight seasons as clearly the best player in league… dude averages 28/9/7 also in playoffs… he also has most game winners in playoff history at 6 (Jordan only has 3)…
That’s top 5 for playoffs in my opinion
Posted on 5/22/23 at 11:58 pm to SulphursFinest
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