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Starlin Castro: Sunday Night Baseball

Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:24 pm
Posted by TigerCub12
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
53 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:24 pm
ESPN just killed Castro on his in game attitude. Bobby Valentine went on for 10 min. about him eating sunflower seeds and how he had his back turned during a pitch.
Posted by SouljaBreauxTellEm
Mizz
Member since Aug 2009
29343 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:32 pm to
espn tries too hard to force their beliefs
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14488 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:43 pm to
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ESPN just killed Castro on his in game attitude. Bobby Valentine went on for 10 min. about him eating sunflower seeds and how he had his back turned during a pitch.


I think that's the culture of the Cubs right now. A few weeks ago an opposing batter hits a ball down the line at the Cubs bullpen and none of the Cub pitchers get off their asses so their fielder can get to the ball.


That's why they need to clean house and made a good start this week.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31070 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:49 pm to
quote:

I think that's the culture of the Cubs right now. A few weeks ago an opposing batter hits a ball down the line at the Cubs bullpen and none of the Cub pitchers get off their asses so their fielder can get to the ball.

Yep. This team just does not give a shite. I remember that ball.

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That's why they need to clean house and made a good start this week.

Firing Hendry was the greatest news I have ever heard.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:50 pm to
quote:

I think that's the culture of the Cubs right now.


Agreed. There's no sense of urgency on this team, even from the young guys. Barney made a little league mistake earlier tonight by not tagging up from 2nd on a deep fly to right with 1 out. They said he heard about it when he got back to the dugout, but he and the rest of the team should be hearing it every day from Quade.

I can't envision a scenario that brings Quade back next year either. Whoever the Cubs hire as the GM will want his own guy in there.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14488 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:53 pm to
quote:

I can't envision a scenario that brings Quade back next year either.


Quade was on Lou's staff and I heard things from friends I have of former Cubs that Lou was punching a clock. I don't see any evidence from Quade that he's doing much better in that regard.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 9:55 pm to
What do you guys think of this list for GM candidates? Who is your preference assuming they'd definitely come to the north side?

quote:

No one knows that list, but here's one that includes the pluses and minuses of those believed to be serious candidates from Ricketts' known preferences and sources on the inside of front offices in no specific order:

Cashman: Overseer of four World Series champions, Cashman, 44, is not under contract for next year and may be ready to move on. He is highly respected in baseball circles and has fought adamantly, at least in recent years, to keep homegrown talent.

Friedman: Just 34 years old and with a business background, Friedman first served as director of development for the Rays before compiling a World Series entrant in his second year at the helm. His name has been mentioned in his hometown of Houston as the Astros also are looking for a GM. Friedman could be the "hot" name this offseason.

Josh Byrnes: The 41-year-old Padres' head of baseball operations was a finalist for the Mets job last winter before joining old Red Sox buddy Jed Hoyer in San Diego. But Byrnes could be a hard sell, considering the Diamondbacks fired him from from his first GM job. He held that position for five years (including in 2007 when they eliminated the Cubs in a division series). Still, the Diamondbacks are seeing success now, partly because of pieces he put in place. And he has that Red Sox pedigree.

Hahn: He's bright, overly educated and more than qualified to take the next step — and the 40-year-old from Winnetka grew up a Cubs fan. Ricketts knows all this, of course, and thinks highly of him, according to one baseball source. Hahn's only drawback would be that he hasn't sat in the big chair. But don't dismiss him.

Chicago connection: That would be Ned Colletti, 56, presently GM of the Dodgers, and Mike Rizzo, 51, presently GM of the Nationals. Neither appears to be near the top of Ricketts' list and may not even be on it.

Interesting names: That would be Ben Cherington, 37,who is Epstein's right hand for the Red Sox, and Kim Ng, 42, who started a front office career with the White Sox in 1991 and is now senior VP at MLB. Both are well-versed in front-office workings but neither seems to be what Ricketts wants right now. Cherington, however, is a name to remember, just in case. He has a strong background in player development and actually was co-GM (with Hoyer) for the Red Sox when Epstein left for a short time.


If Cashman really does want out of New York (and I have no idea why he would leave the NYY for the Cubs), he's the obvious #1 for me. He knows what it takes to win, and he's seen that overpaying for FAs can hurt a franchise.

I think I'd like Friedman next.

I'm really disappointed that it doesn't look like Crane Kenney will be fired as President. Pat Gillick would be money for the Cubs in that situation.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31070 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:14 pm to
If I could have anyone in the world, then probably Alex Anthropoulos of Toronto. He is brilliant, cost efficient, and keeps the Blue Jays around or above .500 in the AL East. I think he work wonders with a sabermetric approach.

Billy Beane would be cool as well.

Realistically:

Cashman would be awesome. He understands a big budget club. I do not want a traditional type of GM that emphasizes stolen bases and hitting for average. Also, I want someone incredibly smart, such as Ivy League education, and more than likely not a former player, excluding Billy Beane.

I like a lot of that list, but I am afraid that Ricketts wants a Hendry 2.0. I want better player development, elite starting pitching, and logical free agent signings. We need a "Moneyball" type of approach. It would work extremely well. Moneyball is not longer conceivable for the A's to contend because not only do you need to exploit inefficiences, but you also need to have money. The Cubs could be one of the titans of baseball if they play their cards right.

Please do not sign Pujols or Fielder in the offseason.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 10:56 pm to
quote:

Please do not sign Pujols or Fielder in the offseason.


Couldn't agree more. As much as it would excite the fan base and sell tickets, the Cubs can't afford to lock up someone for as long and for as much money as Pujols and Fielder will command.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31070 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:18 pm to
quote:

Couldn't agree more. As much as it would excite the fan base and sell tickets, the Cubs can't afford to lock up someone for as long and for as much money as Pujols and Fielder will command.

I know this sounds crazy, but I think the Cubs should be Astros bad for a couple of seasons, while they wait for guys like Soriano, Zambrano, and others to stop sucking up money for crap production. In the meantime, I would try to develop players, and then once we are off the books for those guys, then go start buying a few smarter free agents. However, I want the free agent acquisitions to be mostly starting pitchers. I want to gamble on Josh Johnson if the Marlins ever decide not to resign him.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

I think the Cubs should be Astros bad for a couple of seasons, while they wait for guys like Soriano, Zambrano, and others to stop sucking up money for crap production.


Well, Zambrano will never throw another pitch for the Cubs; Ricketts essentially said that tonight on ESPN in front of the whole country. The Cubs will still be on the hook for the majority of his contract though.

I don't think they have to be Astros bad. They have some decent young players, and better pitching right now. The books will become lighter and lighter next year, and the year after; so if the new GM can get creative, I think the Cubs could be competitive again pretty soon.

quote:

go start buying a few smarter free agents.


The problem is that free agents usually go to the highest bidder. Ricketts acknowledged that they had to be smarter about free agent signings in the future; but they're also going to have to gamble occasionally. For years, Hendry had a policy of not giving players longer than 4 years in a contract, but for whatever reason, he broke it with Soriano and that opened the flood gates.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31070 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:36 pm to
quote:

I don't think they have to be Astros bad. They have some decent young players, and better pitching right now. The books will become lighter and lighter next year, and the year after; so if the new GM can get creative, I think the Cubs could be competitive again pretty soon.

I guess meant more that I would like to experiment with some in-house the next couple of seasons.

quote:

The problem is that free agents usually go to the highest bidder. Ricketts acknowledged that they had to be smarter about free agent signings in the future; but they're also going to have to gamble occasionally. For years, Hendry had a policy of not giving players longer than 4 years in a contract, but for whatever reason, he broke it with Soriano and that opened the flood gates.

I don't want them to get all the Yankee/Red Sox type free agent at first. I would prefer some efficient players and maybe injury risks at a bargain price.

I think Hendry did some great things for the club, but a few of those albatross contracts were just killer to the organization.

I am really just fed up with the lack of work ethic and low level of interest of the club.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:54 pm to
quote:

I am really just fed up with the lack of work ethic and low level of interest of the club


Definitely. I think Ramirez and Soriano having a lackadaisical attitude is rubbing off on the young guys. Castro has already taken on that personality. A culture change is definitely needed.
Posted by 1ranter1
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2008
10395 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:57 pm to
Castro having his backturned for a pitch was insane. I couldnt even imagine a SS in the little league world seriers having that kind of focus.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 8/21/11 at 11:59 pm to
thing that would worry me about Cashman is he's worked for the Yankees since he was 19 y/o. never had another job. i know the Cubs payroll is relatively high, so that comparison is somewhat relevant; but it's just a completely different animal running the Yankees versus the other MLB clubs.
Posted by T Ba Doe Tiger
ROWMCO
Member since Aug 2007
11103 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 7:01 am to
I've seen 8 year old short stops with more game awareness.
Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2007
38120 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 11:13 am to
Watch Bush keep the GM job...that wouldn't be a shocker to me.

Obviously I would like Cashman, but Gillick is a close 2nd for me.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Watch Bush keep the GM job...that wouldn't be a shocker to me.


Ricketts has already said he isn't going to be interviewed.
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89498 posts
Posted on 8/22/11 at 12:37 pm to
The Cubs hitting coach probably makes more than their manager. That should tell you how fricktardedly stupid the front office has been. Who knows what's to come, but as for them not running out fly balls or tagging up to 2nd base when they're pretty much on the bottom rung of baseball this year shouldn't be surprising.

I am surprised at Castro not having his attention on the pitcher at all times, though. That was really strange.
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