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re: Sports That You Can Be Fat/Out Of Shape Yet Still Play Well On Pro Level
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:56 pm to LNCHBOX
Posted on 5/21/13 at 2:56 pm to LNCHBOX
or maybe what you said makes no sense?...you said someone who is out of shape cannot have a pro level golf swing, well john daly is quite out of shape and has a pro level golf swing...
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Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:01 pm to Insolideaux
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or maybe what you said makes no sense?...you said someone who is out of shape cannot have a pro level golf swing, well john daly is quite out of shape and has a pro level golf swing...
Apparently I need to spell it out to you.
The pro golf swing is an incredibly complicated movement of basically your entire body, one which requires excellent flexibility. On top of that, training your muscles to repeat this series of movements over and over and over is no small task. It requires being in shape, just not the kind of in shape you are thinking of.
The same thing can be said for professional pitching and hitting in baseball, as well as many other movements for other sports.
All of this is easily gathered from my posts.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:06 pm to LNCHBOX
i'm glad you think someone who is 300+ lbs, an alcoholic and smokes is "in shape"... i bet you're "in shape" 
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:08 pm to LNCHBOX
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Of course they could. I'm no athlete, and I can go out and play soccer at the Parade Grounds for 1.5 hours whenever I feel like it.
Do you guys really think these guys just sit around and do nothing and perform at these levels? It's pretty comical.
meh, I'm not talking about just jogging around the parade grounds and kicking the ball around. I'm talking about having one of these extremely obese dudes get on a treadmill for 40 mins at either a high incline fast walk or flat slow jog without them huffing and puffing like there is no tomorrow.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:08 pm to Insolideaux
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i'm glad you think someone who is 300+ lbs, an alcoholic and smokes is "in shape"
Take your bullshite elsewhere. You're wrong, and so you're deflecting to personal insults.
If it's so easy, let's see your golf swing and pitching motion.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:10 pm to LNCHBOX
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If it's so easy, let's see your golf swing and pitching motion.
again...has absolutely nothing to do with cardio/respiratory fitness...NOTHING
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:10 pm to St Augustine
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meh, I'm not talking about just jogging around the parade grounds and kicking the ball around
It's not a bunch of stoners out there. Mostly ex high school players and foreigners. Not exactly just jogging around kicking a ball. quote:
I'm talking about having one of these extremely obese dudes get on a treadmill for 40 mins at either a high incline fast walk or flat slow jog without them huffing and puffing like there is no tomorrow.
Considering that would make anyone huff and puff, I think you should maybe find a different criteria.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:12 pm to LNCHBOX
As a matter of fact, i would love to show you. i'll be on the course after work today
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:13 pm to LNCHBOX
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Considering that would make anyone huff and puff, I think you should maybe find a different criteria.
you know full well what I was talking about. I'd be willing to bet there is no way in hell Daily or half those pitchers is able to complete 40 mins of inclined walking on a treadmill at 3.5-4 mph.
Just because they have developed a high level sports specific skill doesn't mean their heart/lungs are any stronger than the next lardass.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:14 pm to St Augustine
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again...has absolutely nothing to do with cardio/respiratory fitness...NOTHING
The whole fricking point is that there are different types of being in shape. How are you not getting that?
There are many people that you would consider to be in good shape that do not possess the flexibility and coordination necessary for a pro level golf swing. Does that make them out of shape since they can't do it?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:16 pm to St Augustine
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I'd be willing to bet there is no way in hell Daily or half those pitchers is able to complete 40 mins of inclined walking on a treadmill.
I'd be willing to bet you're wrong for any of the pitchers, Daly I'd believe
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Just because they have developed a high level sports specific skill doesn't mean their heart/lungs are any stronger than the next lardass.
Dude, you obviously have a very specific criteria for what you think an athlete is. There is no point in continuing this.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:16 pm to LNCHBOX
what you are saying has to do more with being athletic than it does being in shape
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:17 pm to teke184
quote:No
Is poker considered a "sport"?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:18 pm to LNCHBOX
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The whole fricking point is that there are different types of being in shape. How are you not getting that?
There are many people that you would consider to be in good shape that do not possess the flexibility and coordination necessary for a pro level golf swing. Does that make them out of shape since they can't do it?
I'd call the coordination skill. I wouldn't refer to that as being in "shape". Again...I'd think most people would associate being in shape with overall fitness...something that will actually have a positive impact on your health/body.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:18 pm to Insolideaux
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what you are saying has to do more with being athletic than it does being in shape
I bet your body is not in shape to have a pro level swing in any kind of sport. How about that?
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:19 pm to St Augustine
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I wouldn't refer to that as being in "shape"
How many people do you know that are truly out of shape, don't exercise etc, yet have very good flexibility?+
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:19 pm to LNCHBOX
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Dude, you obviously have a very specific criteria for what you think an athlete is. There is no point in continuing this.
I said earlier that these guys ARE athletes.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:20 pm to LNCHBOX
i would beg to differ, but if that makes you feel better about yourself and the "shape" you are in, have at it
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:21 pm to Insolideaux
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i would beg to differ
Of course you would. I'm sure you also run a 4.4 40 and frick 10 on the regular. Perhaps you should be posting here.
Posted on 5/21/13 at 3:23 pm to LNCHBOX
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How many people do you know that are truly out of shape, don't exercise etc, yet have very good flexibility?+
I've had plenty of patients who have good flexibility in large part due to hyper mobile joints.
Remember all flexibility isn't necessarily good. Joints compensate/become hyper mobile from relentless repetition over many years. Why do you think so many of these guys have wear and tear on their backs at relatively young ages.
If these guys continue to throw/swing from a young age, of course they will have the mobility to do it. Doesn't mean they aren't going to get diabetes, neuropathy, hypertension, etc like other fat guys do though.
This post was edited on 5/21/13 at 3:25 pm
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