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re: So where does the Rooney Rule go from here?

Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32616 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:33 pm to
Wasn’t part of the rule to identify or elevate the black coaches who were seen as the best of the blacks? Like okay maybe there was no chance Coach McAfricanAmerican is going to get THIS job but now he is more viable for a job down the road because he was annointed best among blacks.

So it served that purpose.

I hate it and want it to go away ans think Flores is full of dog shite, though.
Posted by Dawgwithnoname
NE Louisiana
Member since Dec 2019
4278 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:34 pm to
Everyone associates the Chiefs success with Reid, not Bienemy. Eventually he will get his chance but he may have to prove himself without fat Andy at some point.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
71054 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:51 pm to
Still feel like unless you have more black guys making their way up the offensive coaching pecking orders the numbers will remain low. That pool is where most of the non retreads seem to be coming from.

I’d love to see a big spreadsheet of all the entry level coaches broken down by race and what position they played, how much money they made in the league, and overall success of playing careers.

I wonder if more white guys just realize earlier that they simply aren’t going to cut it as players and start the transition process to coaching at a younger age.


This post was edited on 2/1/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
7287 posts
Posted on 2/1/22 at 8:55 pm to
Revise it.

No head coach, offensive and defensive coordinators, position coaches, etc. can be anything other than black.

Blacks are overwhelmingly the best athletes, so the best athletes should be coached by black coaches. Exclusively.

Whites, Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, can be water boys, towel boys, equipment managers, locker room attendants, etc. Any menial job.

The important jobs: blacks only.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:25 am to
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Still feel like unless you have more black guys making their way up the offensive coaching pecking orders the numbers will remain low. That pool is where most of the non retreads seem to be coming from.



2021 NFL season had 3 black head coaches, 7 black OCs, 12 black DCs, and 8 black special teams coordinators. There are also 4 black QB coaches.

Of course not all coordinators will become head coaches. But last year there were 33 OC, 33 DC, 32 SC (two teams had either had either a co-OC or a co-DC). So out of those 98 positions... 22 were black... exactly 25%. It would seem to me that eventually, 25% of HCs thus might be black, or 8 of them.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:38 am to
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I’m not saying the Rooney rule as it is written now is the answer, but the fact that there were only 8 minority head coaches in NFL history prior to it is pretty nuts


Why??
Posted by iBack8569
Member since Dec 2021
1594 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:40 am to
Maybe give more of an incentive to hire minority coaches? Give these owners a carrot on a stick, like increasing the salary cap or more chances to host the Super Bowl. You can't really tell a private business how to spend its money, so forcing the top jobs to go to minorities with a percentage rule or something similar wouldn't hold water.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21146 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:40 am to
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Owners hire the best candidate they can regardless of skin color.


Stop bringing rational thought in here.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:40 am to
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Just don't say you're hiring the best candidate if a guy with no experience is on the cusp of being hired


Experience does not necessarily make someone a better candidate.

Hell, tired retreads with “experience” is a huge problem in the coaching world.
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
80542 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 8:44 am to
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I’m not saying the Rooney rule as it is written now is the answer, but the fact that there were only 8 minority head coaches in NFL history prior to it is pretty nuts




Maybe the teams should interview for every position on the field based on the percentage of population in the US.

I mean it's only fair.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40270 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 9:20 am to
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Stop bringing rational thought in here.


Meh. I'm not sure every owner has the same desire to win.

You think Snyder wants to win at all costs? Or does he want to make the most money?
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
39949 posts
Posted on 2/2/22 at 9:23 am to
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DeMaco Ryans and Aaron Glen are probably not ready to be a HC, but they are close.



Demaco was my favorite Texans player the few years i tried to care about the team. Basically the Ryans to Jungleboi swagger period of the Texans.

It makes me feel old that he is about to become a head coach, dude was a stud
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