re: So what is Westbrook real issue with Rubio?

Using your logic .... if Harden had got hurt and Houston only won say 40 games you wiuld say oh well that’s just too bad?????

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Houston is no better than Toronto as of now....

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Who would you take in a 7 game series? Toronto or Houston?

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Probably Houston..... but both have made the playoffs the last few years and neither has done anything elite.....fact.....

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Rockets are still definitely better than Toronto, Toronto might even lose their 1st round series.

I would say the MVP should never come off a team who can’t even win 50.

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Instead of playing the hypothetical they would be bad without him. But they are only merely average with him.

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You're really making my point with all the stuff you posted about Gobert and Embiid and how good that defense is with them on the floor and how average they are-and that's what they are AVERAGE-without them because there's still some defensive talent on that team, yes the Pelicans defense this season is average with AD but when you dig deeper they have the 29th ranked defensive rating in basketball when he sits at 110, when he's on the court their defensive rating is 104. Since the New Year started, they've had the 9th-10th best defensive rating in basketball compared to the 25th best to start the year, that's the proven difference AD makes because that team obviously lacks defensive talent outside of only 1-2 teammates we have to be mindful of context and who comprises these teams before we make sweeping judgments on how good a defender a player is compared to his contemporaries. All I'm saying and I have no problem if he finishes 3rd in DPOY though I think he should get more credit for his availability though but greatness is rewarded in this league so...

Legacy. Gotta make sure hardwn ends up top 15 all time.

How about we reward someone for taking a team from average to great. More than rewarding someone for taking a team from bad to average. let’s reward greatness. Not being average. Pels D is average. Cavs this year - barely above average. Okc last year - barely above average.

No but there only so much you can do legacy wise in reg season.

MVP
First team all nba
Leading team to #1 offense all time prior to clinching one seed.

Stuff like that.

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How about we reward someone for taking a team from average to great. More than rewarding someone for taking a team from bad to average. let’s reward greatness. Not being average. Pels D is average. Cavs this year - barely above average. Okc last year - barely above average.

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I mean in the end it's ultimately an individual player award and all 3 have been spectacular from a defensive perspective, I totally get where you're coming from with Gobert and Embiid because their on-off court defense impact numbers are greater than AD's and there's a lot of offsetting elements to account for you really could make great DPOY arguments for all 3 IMO

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Davis has 0 DPOY Argument. He just is not all that impactful. Sorry bro. His team D is middle of the pack. We don’t reward mediocrity.

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Despite the stats that are in his favor and his paucity of surrounding competent defenders compared to who helps Embiid and Gobert? I mean hell the Pelicans and Jazz have identical W-L records