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Posted on 11/5/13 at 9:40 pm to Informer
Mcnesse got skull dragged. Fans have to blame it on something. Slu beats sam by 20
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:35 am to LC-LSU-FAN
SLU will not lose so that makes the 3 loss scenario moot.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:53 am to GeauxWarrior12
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SLU is not a team full of rented players.
According to your media guide 12 of the 22 offense and defensive starters are transfers. Part of me wishes McNeese would go out and do something like that because every now and then you hit a homerun and the team comes together. Re-reading my post I see that I sound like a extremely poor loser. Best of luck to SLU the rest of the way. Good luck in the playoffs this year. Hopefully the SLC is represented well with 3 teams all playing well in the playoffs.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:05 am to SkyBox
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According to your media guide 12 of the 22 offense and defensive starters are transfers
I thought it was 36 total?
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Part of me wishes McNeese would go out and do something like that because every now and then you hit a homerun and the team comes together.
It infuriates me that McNeese only recruits Louisiana and SE Texas. There's no reason not to at least send feelers out to kids in Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. Here recently, they've landed 3 kids out of Florida. One even from Miami Northwestern (he didn't make the grades, I don't think).
Send out feelers. There are coaches now on the team that are from other areas of the country, so you can't tell me that they don't have connections where they are from........
I counted quite a few kids from California and Miami on SLU's squad that wasn't transfers. You can't tell me McNeese can't send out feelers or ask coaches from wherever for tape on a kid. If kids are willing to go to Southeast Louisiana, there's no doubt in my mind McNeese (with their tradition) can go out and land kids outside of their comfort zone.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:26 am to Prominentwon
They have a total of 40 transfers on their roster. The number of kids from out of state well out number the kids from LA. Most of there players come from FL and California. I too wish we would expand our recruiting area. The days were the unseen kid from Newton is gone. Now with the internet it is harder to get that superstar that no one knows about. I would like to know how they got the transfer from Kansas 1 month after school started. That is a coach that thinks outside the box and makes things happen. Sometimes I think our coaches are afraid to step inside the gray area. Everything is black and white. I think we miss out on some good kids because of that. Sometimes I take pride in the fact that we have coaches that play by the rules and don't flirt with laws. Coach V once told me "it's hard to win with choir boys". Sometimes I feel like our coaching is too much like choir boys as well.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:44 am to SkyBox
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That is a coach that thinks outside the box and makes things happen. Sometimes I think our coaches are afraid to step inside the gray area.
Agreed. With the internet and email and the opportunity to reach out to any kid you want, there's no reason not to reach out to kids in the comfort zone. Schools up north (Big Sky, ND, SD) are littered with kids from Texas and other areas from the SE. Yet, McNeese can only recruit kids from Louisiana and Houston?
I had discussions with a guy who has access to all that information and the reasoning behind all of that is money and "connections." You can't tell me that if you're interested in a kid and you come up to introduce yourself, they wouldn't at minimum listen. E-Mail, Social media. They're all available. Don't give me the excuse that there's no connections in the school or the coaches don't know anyone. You show up, some guys are going to listen. MAKE a new pipeline. No one else is going to do it for you.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 9:58 am to Prominentwon
I also think when you're in a situation like Coach Roberts and you walk into a program that has only had one solid recruiting class in the past 4 years and that group is only sophomores when you arrive then you have to fill in the gaps. SLU has a good bit of transfers but we play around 20 guys on offense and defense and most of these guys were recruited out of high school to come to SLU and a solid number of those guys live within an hour from the campus.
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:17 pm to SkyBox
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They have a total of 40 transfers on their roster. The number of kids from out of state well out number the kids from LA. Most of there players come from FL and California. I too wish we would expand our recruiting area.
Southeastern has 33 total transfers. 34 if you count a walk-on from NO who started out at Arkansas-Monticello. And most of the roster is from Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas. There are a good number from California and several scattered from elsewhere around the country but the majority of the team comes from the natural base.
What rules do you suppose are being "flirted with?" The NCAA doesn't place limits on the number of Juco or FBS transfers, nor do they restrict where you can recruit. Just because McNeese limits themselves doesn't mean others have to.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:26 pm to Informer
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What rules do you suppose are being "flirted with?"
Because you're biased, you're never going to admit that some line was walked narrowly. The #2 JUCO DT in the country commits to Kansas. Can't get into Kansas and then ends up at SLU 2-3 weeks after classes begin and is able to practice and play with the team.
Obviously, the NCAA says it's ok, so nothing can be done about it. But on the surface, by outsiders, it looks sketchy.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:43 pm to Prominentwon
I'd still like to get Mcnesse fans take on the OP. Do any of y'all honestly think Mcneese deserves to be ranked ahead of SLU?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:46 pm to davidsheroes
FCS rankings are out of whack. Realize SE LA is ranked 88 in Sagarin poll(LINK which includes all Division 1(FBS and FCS). I believe they are the third highest ranked FCS team in that poll. I think they are the best team in the Southland.
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:47 pm to Prominentwon
Marquel Combs was eligible and enrolled at Kansas. He didn't want to redshirt and decided to transfer. Because Southeastern has two fall terms, as do most schools in the UL system, he was able to enroll for the second term. That's not flirting with rules, it's knowing what the rules are and taking advantage.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 12:49 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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I'd still like to get Mcnesse fans take on the OP. Do any of y'all honestly think Mcneese deserves to be ranked ahead of SLU?
Of course not, no. It's common sense. But that's not how polls work do they? I've always wondered why the loser of the National Championship game in I-A always falls to 5 or 6. They just played for 1st place. Shouldn't they be #2 if they lost the game?
Posted on 11/6/13 at 1:35 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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I'd still like to get Mcneese fans take on the OP. Do any of y'all honestly think Mcneese deserves to be ranked ahead of SLU?
It depends on how you are determining the ranking. If you are basing it on head to head them absolutely not. If you are basing it on their whole schedule them maybe. McNeese has wins against SHSU and South Florida which on paper is better than any win SLU has. I am not saying that its right or wrong just showing the whole picture. SHSU beat Eastern Washington earlier in the year and now Eastern is ranked 3 and SHSU 6. Same as SLU being ranked ahead of SDSU. Poll voters realize what it takes to win a game and that all it takes is an off night from one team for another team to win. SLU was better last Saturday night. They might be better every Saturday night but you can't base that on one night. If I were a poll voter I would have SLU ahead of McNeese but I could certainly understand where they are coming from.
Like I said before, I think McNeese is ranked right where they should be and deserve to be. I think SLU is still underrated. I think the issue is more where teams were before this happened. It is hard to jump a team from 25 into the top 10 and it is hard to drop a team from top 5 out of the top 15 based on 1 game. If everything was based on 1 game we would have huge swings week to week.
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Posted on 11/6/13 at 5:11 pm to SkyBox
With all the talk of "rented" players and transfers, Southeastern either starts, or significantly rotates, three 5th year seniors on the O-line who were signed out of high school, not to mention three more HS signees who are underclassmen who play significant snaps. They also start a 5th year senior and a redshirt junior at WR (high school signs) and both tight ends are redshirt juniors, signed out of high school. Two of the top three RBs are high school kids (Harrell & Roberson), and of the two transfers (one FBS, one JC), both are sophomores in eligibility.
There are more JC starters on defense, plus an FBS transfer starting, but there are quite a few high school signees starting or playing significant snaps. CB Harlan Miller, from Kentwood, will be a potential first round draft pick in two years; Tyler Stoddard is a three year starter at FS. Kaleb Muse from Ponchatoula is a three year starter at LB, but is now out for the year with a shoulder injury. Drew Misita from Oak Forest Academy in Amite, doesn't technically start but leads the team in tackles and is getting NFL looks already as a junior. DE Javari Nichols from Kentwood plays significant snaps as a true freshman, and true freshman Taylor Cochran from St. Charles is seeing playing time as well.
There are more JC starters on defense, plus an FBS transfer starting, but there are quite a few high school signees starting or playing significant snaps. CB Harlan Miller, from Kentwood, will be a potential first round draft pick in two years; Tyler Stoddard is a three year starter at FS. Kaleb Muse from Ponchatoula is a three year starter at LB, but is now out for the year with a shoulder injury. Drew Misita from Oak Forest Academy in Amite, doesn't technically start but leads the team in tackles and is getting NFL looks already as a junior. DE Javari Nichols from Kentwood plays significant snaps as a true freshman, and true freshman Taylor Cochran from St. Charles is seeing playing time as well.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 6:59 pm to LC-LSU-FAN
Anyone losing to SLU should be banned from playoffs.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:07 pm to GeauxWarrior12
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Mcnesse
Do you even spell, bro? For fricks sake man, its McNeese.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 7:24 pm to Informer
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With all the talk of "rented" players and transfers, Southeastern either starts, or significantly rotates, three 5th year seniors on the O-line who were signed out of high school, not to mention three more HS signees who are underclassmen who play significant snaps. They also start a 5th year senior and a redshirt junior at WR (high school signs) and both tight ends are redshirt juniors, signed out of high school. Two of the top three RBs are high school kids (Harrell & Roberson), and of the two transfers (one FBS, one JC), both are sophomores in eligibility.
There are more JC starters on defense, plus an FBS transfer starting, but there are quite a few high school signees starting or playing significant snaps. CB Harlan Miller, from Kentwood, will be a potential first round draft pick in two years; Tyler Stoddard is a three year starter at FS. Kaleb Muse from Ponchatoula is a three year starter at LB, but is now out for the year with a shoulder injury. Drew Misita from Oak Forest Academy in Amite, doesn't technically start but leads the team in tackles and is getting NFL looks already as a junior. DE Javari Nichols from Kentwood plays significant snaps as a true freshman, and true freshman Taylor Cochran from St. Charles is seeing playing time as well.
Good stuff. Thanks for the scoop.
Posted on 11/6/13 at 8:48 pm to southernelite
Obvious typo man. Chill out
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